Derrius Guice’s ACL tear is latest example of the injury bug devouring the Redskins. Again. And again.

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

How do you fix a rb getting tackled, falls down funny and rips his knee? How do you fix Jordan Reed being as durable as a wine glass?

They knew that Reed was often hurt in college when the drafted him. Perhaps they should have drafted somebody else in that spot. I'm talking here about a team policy designed to reduce the number of games lost to injuries and not specifically about Reed.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

They knew that Reed was often hurt in college when the drafted him. Perhaps they should have drafted somebody else in that spot. I'm talking here about a team policy designed to reduce the number of games lost to injuries and not specifically about Reed.

Well that is then another discussion about management. My point was a lot of this is just terrible luck. Allen with a foot fracture last year, just some unlucky shit.

It seems like Gruden has made the practices more physical this camp, from what we've heard.

[SkinsGuru]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

If we are consistently among the teams who are hurt most by injuries, year after year, shouldn't somebody at Redskins Park be trying to find out why and fix it? The frequency of some types of injuries can be reduced. The attitude of "Shit happens; next man up!" just doesn't get it, IMO.

They spent millions of dollars trying to fix that by building new facilities, getting new training staff, etc. . . . what is the answer?

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by SkinsGuru

They spent millions of dollars trying to fix that by building new facilities, getting new training staff, etc. . . . what is the answer?

Not my job to find that answer. They need to do that.

[FrenchSkin]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

Not my job to find that answer. They need to do that.

I agree, and I'd put an "s" to "answer".

There are plenty of ways to try to reduce the amount of injuries.

I remember last year, Jay was asked about the injury bug decimating his team, and if the staff was trying to do something about it, and he dismissed the question, laughing like if it was obviously un-relevant, saying "don't worry, our players drink a lot of water".

Well, maybe in 2018 we can have access to better body science than just drinking a lot of water.

Did you guys look at the first episode of Hard Knocks?
You can see Jarvis Landry having a weird looking work out where he's standing on one leg on a moving tray, throwing and catching a heavy medicine ball.
Both the tray and the ball are tools used by physiotherapists to improve proprioception.
Basically it's another way to train your muscles, in a way that they don't need to be activated consciously, but react instinctively and quicker instead.

I just checked, Jarvis Landry never missed a game due to injury.

And then you think about TB12's success with his personal trainer.

Can you get injuries out of football? Of course not.

My point simply is, yes there are plenty of solutions that needs to be looked at (nutrition, innovating workouts, warm ups, field condition etc...).

Not saying our staff is not looking at these solutions, but the amount of injuries year after year suggest maybe more needs to be done.

[SkinsGuru]

Originally Posted by FrenchSkin

I agree, and I'd put an "s" to "answer".

There are plenty of ways to try to reduce the amount of injuries.

I remember last year, Jay was asked about the injury bug decimating his team, and if the staff was trying to do something about it, and he dismissed the question, laughing like if it was obviously un-relevant, saying "don't worry, our players drink a lot of water".

Well, maybe in 2018 we can have access to better body science than just drinking a lot of water.

Did you guys look at the first episode of Hard Knocks?
You can see Jarvis Landry having a weird looking work out where he's standing on one leg on a moving tray, throwing and catching a heavy medicine ball.
Both the tray and the ball are tools used by physiotherapists to improve proprioception.
Basically it's another way to train your muscles, in a way that they don't need to be activated consciously, but react instinctively and quicker instead.

I just checked, Jarvis Landry never missed a game due to injury.

And then you think about TB12's success with his personal trainer.

Can you get injuries out of football? Of course not.

My point simply is, yes there are plenty of solutions that needs to be looked at (nutrition, innovating workouts, warm ups, field condition etc...).

Not saying our staff is not looking at these solutions, but the amount of injuries year after year suggest maybe more needs to be done.

they just built a state of the art treatment, prevention and recovery center . . . the science is there . . . luck, for whatever reason has not been

[DYoungJelly]

Originally Posted by SkinsGuru

They spent millions of dollars trying to fix that by building new facilities, getting new training staff, etc. . . . what is the answer?

Knee ligaments are one of those things that can go any time regardless of prep.

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[SkinsGuru]

Originally Posted by DYoungJelly

Knee ligaments are one of those things that can go any time regardless of prep.

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exactly . . . you can't predict them, nor avoid them really . . . they happen to every team . . . usually at the rate of like 30 per preseason (or something like that)

[MTK]

I thought Perine looked good, he definitely looks quicker.

[skinsfan69]

It is what it is. Time to move on just like the Eagles did last year when they lost their MVP QB. Just like the Vikings did when they lost their rookie RB last year. It's life in the NFL. I just don't buy that we have a black cloud over our team, or it has something to do w/ Snyder. It's just plain old fucking bad ass luck.


But I want to see Marshall get a crack, as well as Bibbs. They're simply more versatile backs than Perine and Kelly. I mean Marshall can be split out and can run pass routes. He can be a mismatch for LB's. Kelly and Perine just don't have that skill set. I'd go w/ those two and of course CT.

[MTK]

It wasn't ruled a fumble though right?

For all the griping people do about Perine's fumbling he was credited with 2 last year on 197 total touches.

I think we'll keep all 4 backs with one of them inactive on game days.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by MTK

It wasn't ruled a fumble though right?

For all the griping people do about Perine's fumbling he was credited with 2 last year on 197 total touches.

I think we'll keep all 4 backs with one of them inactive on game days.

I don’t think that matters to coaches because it was a fumble but whistle had blown. You are probably right....but I would look at waiver wire with the intent to bring in a cut back. Watching the Detroit situation closely.

[sdskinsfan2001]

I thought I'd be less depressed by now. Nope, still depressed as fuck. Going from Guice to hoping unproven Marshall gets more 1st team reps. FML. And that's not trying to knock Marshall. Best of luck to him, but shit man.

[sdskinsfan2001]

I'm just expecting our run game to be shit again. Prep for the worst, hope for the best.

2018 Alex, please be 2017 Alex.

[sdskinsfan2001]