When is Enough ,Enough?

[mooby]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

The graph is from the state department and refers specifically to those passport denials/issuance that you were complaining about - unless you think we only 2000 passports this year.

Also gonna slow the roll on using thinkprogress as a legitimate group for judging bias.

another state dept graph.
https://us-east-1.tchyn.io/snopes-pr...18/08/a-17.jpg

I concede this argument.

I also concede thinkprogress is not the best source. They have photographic evidence of the group (which you can research if you really don't think is that bad) posting support for DeSantis and also saying he's an admin for the group. Rather than say thinkprogress is not a good source, why don't you look at the evidence and judge the content from that?

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by mooby

I concede this argument.

I also concede thinkprogress is not the best source. They have photographic evidence of the group (which you can research if you really don't think is that bad) posting support for DeSantis and also saying he's an admin for the group. Rather than say thinkprogress is not a good source, why don't you look at the evidence and judge the content from that?

I did look at several versions, and wasn't really impressed with it, but honestly my disputes are gonna get razzed here, and blown out of context, not by you.

I don't know anything about Facebook, I have never had an account, so this is from Tampa Bay's newspaper:

Republican candidate for governor Ron DeSantis says he knew nothing about a racist Facebook page that liberal groups claimed he moderated, the Tampa Bay Times is reporting.

DeSantis' membership in the 95,000-member Tea Party group was first noted by American Ledger, a website run by the liberal group American Bridge.

A DeSantis spokesman denied that DeSantis had ever been an administrator of the group or that he even knew he was a member. He immediately left the page when notified about the matter, the spokesman said.

A Facebook user can be added to a page without his or her knowledge and does not have to approve themselves becoming an administrator to groups.

I saw people saying the last part is true, and the last part is false.

I also know it was called the Tea Party, though had nothing to do with the political Tea Party.

I had looked at the Snopes account, which had a screen grab that said the profile was added by another person, and that a member who promoted voting him is the one that said he is an admin. Again, I don't know enough about Facebook to know if these things can happen without his knowledge.
Snopes has this as a reference quote though:

Facebook groups allow anyone with a Facebook account who is a member of the group to arbitrarily add any other Facebook user to a group without asking first as long as that user is on his or her friends list.

Whether your addition to a group by someone on your friends list was meant to benefit you or was done maliciously, you aren’t given the opportunity to opt-in. You are in.

I would think that has to be a group based setting, but don't know

So bottomline for me, he is running for Florida governor, I will never interact with him in any meaningful way. If the people of Florida elect him, then let them do their due diligence, but for me it smells like typical media oversell.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by mooby

I concede this argument.

I also concede thinkprogress is not the best source. They have photographic evidence of the group (which you can research if you really don't think is that bad) posting support for DeSantis and also saying he's an admin for the group. Rather than say thinkprogress is not a good source, why don't you look at the evidence and judge the content from that?

He won't and even if he did he would never admit it,................it's called a personal bias.