Colts-Redskins Postgame Thread

[FrenchSkin]

Originally Posted by irish

If these guys need the coaching staff to give them energy with the chance to go 2-0 in the home opener then this team has the wrong players.

Agreed.

Sometimes it's more about locker room leaders than coaches. Or at the very least, if your coach can't do it, captains should be able to!

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[FrenchSkin]

Negatives are pretty obvious, and plentiful.

So I'd like to focus on the positives of this game, not to deny the negatives, but to temper the "burn the house down" (legitimate) feeling:

I'd like to make the case that despite the lack of pass rush, our D played a solid game. So here's a breakdown of all yesterday's game's possessions:

-Colts: 11 plays, 75 yards, 5:35, TD
-Skins: 5 plays, 31 yards, 2:48 PUNT
-Colts: 4 plays, 4 yards, 1:39 PUNT
-Skins: 8 plays, 16 yards, 4:01 PUNT
-Colts: 8 plays, 58 yards, 2:48 INT
-Skins: 5 plays, 27 yards, 1:57 FG (49yards)
-Colts: 8 plays, 75 yards, 4:21 TD (big PI call on Moreau for 37 yards)
-Skins: 4 plays, 4 yards, 1:25 PUNT
-Colts: 4 plays, 8 yards, 1:27 PUNT
-Skins: 8 plays, 7 yards, 2:07 PUNT
-Colts: 4 plays, 6 yards, 0:57 PUNT
-Skins: 6 plays, 54 yards, 0:50 MISSED FG (49 yards)
-Colts: kneel down HALF.
-Skins: 10 plays, 38 yards, 4:22 PUNT
-Colts: 3 plays, 0 yards 1:21 INT
-Skins: 7 plays, 20 yards, 3:37 FG (27yards)
-Colts: 4 plays, 5 yards, 1:05 PUNT
-Skins: 11 plays, 42 yards, 6:07 FG (49 yards) (14 to 9, 13:28 to play)
-Colts: 13 plays, 75 yards, 5:56 TD (21 to 9, 7:32 to play)
-Skins: 8 plays, 46 yards, 2:33 FUMBLE (this definitely killed the game)
-Colts: 6 plays, 22 yards, 1:12 PUNT
-Skins: 13 plays, 3:29 TOD
-Colts: kneel down EOTG

So basically, out of 10 legit possessions, the Redskins Defense allowed 4 drives, one ended with an INT, 3 with TDs.

Put another way: 10 Colts' possessions, 5 punts, 2 turnovers.

IMO this loss is like 90% on the Offense, they kept giving the ball back. Longest drive was 54 yards (missed FG before the half), longest in TOP was 6:07 and it was late in the game.

The first drive of the game was unacceptable, but this Defense gave us a chance: 14 to 9 with 13:28 left in the 4th was a miracle with how poorly the offense played! 21 to 9 with 7:32 to play is still a winnable game, you should be able to come back from a 12 points deficit in football!

Again, they did give up 4 long drives (3 TD, 1 INT), but the other 6 possessions combined, they allowed: 0 points, 45 yards and 7:41 of game time. That's 7.5 yards and 1:17 per possession.
Yes, when they couldn't stop them once they got in our Redzone, but my point is during most of the game they did a really good job of quickly giving the ball back to the Offense, which didn't do anything with it.

Have to watch it again, but from the top of my head I'd say the middle of our Dline, Mason Foster, Dj Swearinger and Dunbar all played well.

Agree with those saying the biggest negative is how flat and unprepared the Offense (and the D on the first drive) looked . After a big week 1 win on the road, this is unacceptable, unforgivable and inexplicable...

But talent is (mostly) here, and we're 1-1, first in a division that doesn't look as good as everyone expected.

[MTK]

Piss poor performance across the board, more so on the offense IMO.

Gotta rebound against GB.

[Chico23231]

Heard a great breakdown by Craig Huffman driving into work. Really good observations from tape...Breakdown

Offense:

1. Put the loss on the O-line and Jay Gruden inability to change the gameplan at somepoint in the 2nd quarter.

A. Oline was bad across the board with pass and run blocking. Everyone had a bad game. Moses, Luavao especially....even Trent wasn't good. Huffman said the injury to Trent makes him nervous to hear about today from Jay.

B. Game plan was typical Jay Gruden....forget what worked last week and came out trying to throw deep and get chunk plays. Colts were expecting it and played a soft zone with over the top help. Colts outcoached Jay Gruden fairly easy. Only after halftime did Jay adjust which if he did earlier in the game, might have resulted in touchdowns. Jay went to quick throws second half with paid off. Overall play calls weren't good.

C. WR and QB play... WRs: Doctson and P Rich need to make the tough catches. They missed 2 huge catches. Doctson early, Rich later. Jordan Reed cant fumble that ball...poor execution. QB:A. Smith had rarely anytime to throw...when he did, he missed a couple guys running open in the second half. He had happy feet from the rush and never was in rhythm til second half.

D. Cant blame the Running backs this game...they never had any lanes.


Defense:

A: Defense overall all wasn't terrible, but Manusky could have adjusted to Zone coverage on 3rd down defense earlier. Colts ran pick plays in Man coverage which killed the skins. The Hilton TD was a pick play and several first downs first half were picks.

B: Pass rush needs to be better and more consistent.


Looks like Oline and Jay gruden loss this one folks

[TheMalcolmConnection]

If I knew nothing about the game other than Luck's stats, I would have said we smoked them. Worst offensive performance I've seen out of them in a loooong time. I'm not blaming Smith either. He was dinking and dunking because that's ALL that was available. If we picked them apart early with that, we might have won. I blame the offensive line, plain and simple. For having a "top five line" we got absolutely worked against nobody.

All this being said, I expect us to compete with the Packers this weekend because... Redskins.

[FrenchSkin]

Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

If I knew nothing about the game other than Luck's stats, I would have said we smoked them. Worst offensive performance I've seen out of them in a loooong time. I'm not blaming Smith either. He was dinking and dunking because that's ALL that was available. If we picked them apart early with that, we might have won. I blame the offensive line, plain and simple. For having a "top five line" we got absolutely worked against nobody.

All this being said, I expect us to compete with the Packers this weekend because... Redskins.

This! 179yards, 2 TDs, 2 INTs isn't bad against a healthy Luck. Plus we allowed 3.7 yards per rush ! And that includes the first drive of the game, wonder what this number is after that first drive.

[skinsfaninok]

Here's a concerning stat for you..

Ryan Kerrigan after 2 games..

0 Sacks, O hits on the QB. 1 Tackle. Yes 1 tackle.

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Here's a concerning stat for you..

Ryan Kerrigan after 2 games..

0 Sacks, O hits on the QB. 1 Tackle. Yes 1 tackle.

If Kerrigan is over the hill we've got nothing at OLB.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Here's a concerning stat for you..

Ryan Kerrigan after 2 games..

0 Sacks, O hits on the QB. 1 Tackle. Yes 1 tackle.

No question he has to get it going... meanwhile Galette is sitting out there begging for a job, I'd get him in here on a vet min deal pronto. What's there to lose??

[Defensewins]

The Gruden era: We fall behind early. We abandon the run. We cannot pass protect very well or consistently so our qb has no time to throw or go through hus progressions. Our opponents defense just has to defend the pass, making it easier for them. Sound familiar?
There is more, the opponents defense can key on the short passing because we cannot give our QB time to throw. We make it so easy for defenses to beat us.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by Defensewins

The Gruden era: We fall behind early. We abandon the run. We cannot pass protect very well or consistently so our qb has no time to throw or go through hus progressions. Our opponents defense just has to defend the pass, making it easier for them. Sound familiar?
There is more, the opponents defense can key on the short passing because we cannot give our QB time to throw. We make it so easy for defenses to beat us.

My problem is this, say we want to move on from Jay Gruden, Do you have any faith in Dan and Bruce to make a competent decision at HC? I don't. This organization has a terrible reputation and attracted talent to come here is much tougher than other places.

Kyle Shanny...and McVay...2 young, up and coming HC. We couldn't recognize it and let them walk. In fact, Dan Snyder and Kyle Shanny hated each other, so its that inability as a organization to even operate as a professional organization.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

My problem is this, say we want to move on from Jay Gruden, Do you have any faith in Dan and Bruce to make a competent decision at HC? I don't. This organization has a terrible reputation and attracted talent to come here is much tougher than other places.

Kyle Shanny...and McVay...2 young, up and coming HC. We couldn't recognize it and let them walk. In fact, Dan Snyder and Kyle Shanny hated each other, so its that inability as a organization to even operate as a professional organization.

McVay has a true stud at RB, a recent #1 overall draft pick at QB, a dominant DT, to be fair he had some nice pieces to start with. Plus we could not just fire Jay and give the team to McVay. But McVay already proved to be smarter than Gruden. He didn't care about his ego and hired the best DC he could.

[Defensewins]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

My problem is this, say we want to move on from Jay Gruden, Do you have any faith in Dan and Bruce to make a competent decision at HC? I don't. This organization has a terrible reputation and attracted talent to come here is much tougher than other places.

Kyle Shanny...and McVay...2 young, up and coming HC. We couldn't recognize it and let them walk. In fact, Dan Snyder and Kyle Shanny hated each other, so its that inability as a organization to even operate as a professional organization.

The root cause of the problems is higher than Gruden.
Allen must go. This is a major problem:
https://redskinswire.usatoday.com/20...-agents-finds/

This combined with losing should get him fired.
"The Washington Redskins and Bruce Allen rank among the league’s worst in preparedness and trustworthiness, at least according to a new poll."
I think Snyder has more patience with people he has hired directly and especially a person that is the son of the late great George Allen. If Bruce's last name was not Allen, he would be fired at the end of this year. I am not sure that will happen even if we have a sub .500 record this year.
I know all of the Snyder and Allen apologists will say he has drafted well. I disagree. Being the son of a great Footbal man like George Allen does not make you qualified to be an NFL GM. Either does Gruden being the brother of an NFL coach that won the Super Bowl.

[skinsfan69]

Hogs 2.0? Ok.

[GridIron26]

Offense was pretty terrible, simple as that. It must be one of worst Oline performance I have ever seen, and our running game was nonexistent. WRs and TEs didn't make plays when they got the chance, even though they got only few chances. I am aware that Alex has tendacy of throwing balls to RBs but, dang when we have little time and 2-3 scores behind, he must at least try throw some deep balls. I was hoping he would just throw ball up and let Doctson fight for it. I am really disappointed how Redskins offense came into the game with no energy.

Defense had terrible start but eventually started to gel later in the game although, pass rush was limited. Little to no pressure from Kerrigan and Smith... Norman didn't play well, he need to do more if he wants to continue earning the money. Not all is bad though, Foster, Swearinger, and Dunbar had good game!

We must do much better if we want to win the game against Green Bay.