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Old 10-17-2018, 01:17 PM   #1
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I could care less if Elizabeth warren claims Native American heritage to be honest white people are entirely responsible for anybody with even a minuscule of ethnic minority diversity as identifying as such.
What does that even mean?

You don't care if Warren (who is white) claims to have a Native American heritage because white people are entirely responsible for people making such claims.

Shouldn't you, by that logic, be extremely ticked off, that a prominent white politician used that claim to knowingly and falsely take advantage of that identification for self advancement?

This topic really should be in the hypocrisy thread.

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Old 10-17-2018, 02:55 PM   #2
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You are right this should be in the hypocrisy thread. What I mean is that we are so hell bent on forcing identification of race and ethnicity that we should not be surprised when people use it as such. I cannot justify being ticked off when we are the ones that continue to support and reelect said politicians. Until we stop we are going to reap what we sow. Personally I am more upset that the dubious genetic test is being used as evidence, our scientific understanding is atrocious and an embarrassment.
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Old 10-17-2018, 03:01 PM   #3
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You are right this should be in the hypocrisy thread. What I mean is that we are so hell bent on forcing identification of race and ethnicity that we should not be surprised when people use it as such. I cannot justify being ticked off when we are the ones that continue to support and reelect said politicians. Until we stop we are going to reap what we sow. Personally I am more upset that the dubious genetic test is being used as evidence, our scientific understanding is atrocious and an embarrassment.
Thanks for clarifying. I am in total agreement with you.
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Old 10-30-2018, 05:40 PM   #4
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According to RCP polling averages if the election were counted today, the Republicans actually gain 2 senate seats
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/ep..._toss_ups.html

The house is going to be a quagmire of nothingness. Many on here won't believe this, but I'm kind of hoping the house goes democratic. And my rationale is history. I think Reagan made alot of good compromises when he had to deal with Tip O'Neal. I didn't necessarily like all of them, but the split government works better for Republicans if they have the Senate and Presidency. I would even say when Clinton lost the House, it made his presidency better too. With the whole house up every 2 years, I think it makes negotiations more accomplishable then in the senate where only 1/3 changes at a time.

Maybe a Democratic house and Republican senate could work together with Trump, and actually make headway on healthcare, immigration, and the country's debt issue.

The country has to find a way to move forward in some unity. Doesn't it?
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Old 10-31-2018, 10:09 AM   #5
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http://www.msn.com/en-us/money/caree...L3H?ocid=ientp

Wages and salaries jump by 3.1%, highest level in a decade

Wage increases have been the missing link in the economy since the recovery began in mid-2008.
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Old 10-31-2018, 10:53 AM   #6
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What an amazing idea, paying people more helps the economy. Wonder where we’ve heard that before.
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Old 10-31-2018, 12:28 PM   #7
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What an amazing idea, paying people more helps the economy. Wonder where we’ve heard that before.
No, it's the reverse, a growing economy helps raise all the boats. It worked with Reagan's tax cuts, and it's working now.

We've had several quarters of positive GDP growth, lower unemployment, and those pressures, not government interference are what lead to wage growth.
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No, it's the reverse, a growing economy helps raise all the boats. It worked with Reagan's tax cuts, and it's working now.

We've had several quarters of positive GDP growth, lower unemployment, and those pressures, not government interference are what lead to wage growth.
Please don't try to sell us on trickle down BS. A tax cut on it's own doesn't help everyone.

Just like wages alone don't raise an economy, but low wages have been a problem for a long time. When giant corporations pay garbage wages that force people to stay on assistance programs it's a lose/lose for everyone. Nothing wrong with pressuring companies to pay their employees a livable wage.
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What an amazing idea, paying people more helps the economy. Wonder where we’ve heard that before.
Paying people more when business are thriving is one thing forcing a business to pay higher wages usually has a negative affect.
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Old 10-31-2018, 11:13 AM   #10
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Fuck This Guy

Where's the outrage from "normal citizens"?
If you don't want to be called a racist then you should probably speak up at some point.
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Where's the outrage from "normal citizens"?

If you don't want to be called a racist then you should probably speak up at some point.

How about that economy
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Where's the outrage from "normal citizens"?
If you don't want to be called a racist then you should probably speak up at some point.
There's more than enough faux outrage from the left. Recall that Harry Reid(I know it's a talking point name) once proposed ending birthright citizenship.

I won't say I know much on the topic, but I do know that Trump loves to push liberals to hypocritical positions, especially on immigration. It's why dems are pretty silent over the issue, because they all supported most of the positions - until Trump was the one suggesting it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birthr...ht_citizenship
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Both Democrats and Republicans have introduced legislation aimed at narrowing the application of the Citizenship Clause. In 1993, Sen. Harry Reid (D-Nev.) introduced legislation that would limit birthright citizenship to the children of U.S. citizens and legally resident aliens, and similar bills have been introduced by other legislators in every Congress since.[79] For example, U.S. Representative Nathan Deal, a Republican from the State of Georgia, introduced the "Citizenship Reform Act of 2005" (H.R. 698) in the 109th Congress,[80] the "Birthright Citizenship Act of 2007" (H.R. 1940)[81] in the 110th Congress, and the "Birthright Citizenship Act of 2009" (H.R. 1868)[82] in the 111th Congress. However, neither these nor any similar bill has ever been passed by Congress.

Some legislators, unsure whether such Acts of Congress would survive court challenges, have proposed that the Citizenship Clause be changed through a constitutional amendment.[83] Senate Joint Resolution 6, introduced on January 16, 2009 in the 111th Congress, proposes such an amendment;[84] however, neither this, nor any other proposed amendment, has yet been approved by Congress for ratification by the states.
In terms of racist mentality how about HRC's joke that all blacks look the same, and the raucous laughter it got?

Oh Outrage wherefore art thou.
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There's more than enough faux outrage from the left. Recall that Harry Reid(I know it's a talking point name) once proposed ending birthright citizenship.

I won't say I know much on the topic, but I do know that Trump loves to push liberals to hypocritical positions, especially on immigration. It's why dems are pretty silent over the issue, because they all supported most of the positions - until Trump was the one suggesting it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birthr...ht_citizenship

In terms of racist mentality how about HRC's joke that all blacks look the same, and the raucous laughter it got?

Oh Outrage wherefore art thou.

The left was also for building a wall and protecting our boarder. You pick any top Democrat and I can find a clip of them wanting tougher immigration laws.
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Old 10-31-2018, 02:49 PM   #14
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The left was also for building a wall and protecting our boarder. You pick any top Democrat and I can find a clip of them wanting tougher immigration laws.
This isn't about a wall or National Security; This is just a racist dog whistle before primaries to drum up votes.


Edit: Deleted the part about morals. That was a low a blow.
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Old 10-31-2018, 02:33 PM   #15
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There's more than enough faux outrage from the left. Recall that Harry Reid(I know it's a talking point name) once proposed ending birthright citizenship.

I won't say I know much on the topic, but I do know that Trump loves to push liberals to hypocritical positions, especially on immigration. It's why dems are pretty silent over the issue, because they all supported most of the positions - until Trump was the one suggesting it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birthr...ht_citizenship

In terms of racist mentality how about HRC's joke that all blacks look the same, and the raucous laughter it got?

Oh Outrage wherefore art thou.
it's disgusting but Conservatives have tuned out Liberals while Liberals have done the same to Conservatives.
Why not stand up to your own party instead of just going along with this bigotry?

Maybe this is more appropriate for the Enough... thread.
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