When is Enough ,Enough?

[BaltimoreSkins]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

What is sad is that i doubt anybody thinks this is an external threat. I don't know how life was in the period leading up to the civil war but somehow i think the distrust in fellow americans is as high as it must have been in that period.

You know when I first read about the bombs I was hoping that it was an external threat even if it would have sent Chico into a tirade of posts addressing lax terrorist policies.

On a side note, I heard this morning that the bombs were missing a key component to make them detonate. Officials were not saying however whether it appears intentional or accidental.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by BaltimoreSkins

You know when I first read about the bombs I was hoping that it was an external threat even if it would have sent Chico into a tirade of posts addressing lax terrorist policies.

On a side note, I heard this morning that the bombs were missing a key component to make them detonate. Officials were not saying however whether it appears intentional or accidental.

Its not really the lax policies at this point, its the fact since Obama has left office we finally executed a strategy to eliminate the safe haven ISIS and other terrorist groups had operated from...

The Obama administration previous foreign policy strategy with handling the Arab Spring and other Middle Eastern geo-political matters was a proven failure.



...anytime Chico is given an opportunity "to tirade" about Terrorism...external (nice word) or Islamic(bad word) in this case...well, we know that train is never late.



Oh sidenote...you know Cory Booker was high fiving and fist pumping this morning. K Harris is so jelly too right now....

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Its not really the lax policies at this point, its the fact since Obama has left office we finally executed a strategy to eliminate the safe haven ISIS and other terrorist groups had operated from...

The Obama administration previous foreign policy strategy with handling the Arab Spring and other Middle Eastern geo-political matters was a proven failure.



...anytime Chico is given an opportunity "to tirade" about Terrorism...external (nice word) or Islamic(bad word) in this case...well, we know that train is never late.



Oh sidenote...you know Cory Booker was high fiving and fist pumping this morning. K Harris is so jelly too right now....

.........and here comes the Obama deflection..again!What's the strategy,trumps policy Chico ....exactly what is it?

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by Giantone

.........and here comes the Obama deflection..again!What's the strategy,trumps policy Chico ....exactly what is it?

G1, I don't want to talk about it again, but Trump committed US troops, operation support, armed kurds, brought in the Turks, worked with Europe...he said enough was enough.


Bigger news...Im hearing we found the bomb sender. Trump got'em quick!

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

G1, I don't want to talk about it again, but Trump committed US troops, operation support, armed kurds, brought in the Turks, worked with Europe...he said enough was enough.


Bigger news...Im hearing we found the bomb sender. Trump got'em quick!

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"We know a little bit more about this man who has now been taken into custody in connection with these mail bombs," reports CNN's @evanperez: "He's in his 50s, and he does have some New York ties. He has some criminal history."

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That was quick - good job FBI et all

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by Giantone

.........and here comes the Obama deflection..again!What's the strategy,trumps policy Chico ....exactly what is it?

It's funny that your claim of Obama deflection is in itself a deflection.

Trump's policy has been to let the commanders in the field take out targets and make the calls in the field. It effectively turned the ISIS tide in northern Iraq, and, even in cooperation with Russia/Syria, diminished their lands in Syria as well.

It also has been

• to not degrade intelligence assets by working to close bases like Guantanemo Bay,
• or tie the military's hands, and making Iran focus more on their internal politics rather than supporting factions like ISIS
• by promoting Israeli interests,
• as well as keeping Saudi's government strong.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

It's funny that your claim of Obama deflection is in itself a deflection.

Trump's policy has been to let the commanders in the field take out targets and make the calls in the field. It effectively turned the ISIS tide in northern Iraq, and, even in cooperation with Russia/Syria, diminished their lands in Syria as well.

It also has been

• to not degrade intelligence assets by working to close bases like Guantanemo Bay,
• or tie the military's hands, and making Iran focus more on their internal politics rather than supporting factions like ISIS
• by promoting Israeli interests,
• as well as keeping Saudi's government strong.

A nice story but I want read the policy and not what you made up.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by Giantone

A nice story but I want read the policy and not what you made up.

Ok my points and policy changes reflecting them: (NOTE most of these sources are "anti-trump" so the general tone and point is to say how awful his policies are, I am simply using them to show the policy that you ask for)

1) tie the military's hands, and making Iran focus more on their internal politics rather than supporting factions like ISIS
You can google and find things pretty quickly, and it's probably quixotic to try and show you, but here we go, from a Politico article about Trump's policy changes in 2017 from Obama's:
https://www.politico.com/agenda/stor...es-2017-000603

3. The Pentagon flexes its muscles
During the Obama administration, the military often complained that the White House was micromanaging its affairs, requiring high-level, interagency approval for decisions on troop levels or drone strikes outside of active war zones. Trump has dramatically reversed those policies, giving the Department of Defense wide autonomy to conduct overseas military operations.
... Trump’s decision to outsource the decision to the Pentagon is a big win for the agency and for Mattis—and an outcome that would have been unthinkable under Obama.

Trump brings back Iran sanctions after exiting nuclear deal

2)to not degrade intelligence assets by working not to close bases like Guantanemo Bay
Donald Trump signs executive order to keep Guantánamo Bay open


3)by promoting Israeli interests,

US officially recognized Jerusalem as the capital of Israel as a new US Embassy opened there.
U.S. Ends Funding Of U.N. Agency That Supports Palestinian Refugees


4) as well as keeping Saudi's government strong versus Iran:
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/ar...onship/572905/

On several of these issues, Obama counseled the Saudis to pursue dialogue with the Iranians instead of sliding further into the sectarian war that was engulfing the region.

Sometimes G1, I'm not sure if you are trolling or not engaging in honest discussion because you seem more than smart enough to know the policy changes that Trump has made, but then make twisted or dissheveled arguments that he didn't.

Clearly Trump has given policies favoring Israel and Saudi Arabia high priority. Clearly ISIS who we were told had a new unstoppable caliphate built on ancient lands no longer contros those lands. Clearly Trump has stated his intention to use Gitmo as an intelligence gathering tool.

None of these things are really even debatable. The left hates them because they go against the new social globalism, but they don't deny the policy changes.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Ok my points and policy changes reflecting them: (NOTE most of these sources are "anti-trump" so the general tone and point is to say how awful his policies are, I am simply using them to show the policy that you ask for)

1) tie the military's hands, and making Iran focus more on their internal politics rather than supporting factions like ISIS
You can google and find things pretty quickly, and it's probably quixotic to try and show you, but here we go, from a Politico article about Trump's policy changes in 2017 from Obama's:
https://www.politico.com/agenda/stor...es-2017-000603



Trump brings back Iran sanctions after exiting nuclear deal

2)to not degrade intelligence assets by working not to close bases like Guantanemo Bay
Donald Trump signs executive order to keep Guantánamo Bay open


3)by promoting Israeli interests,

US officially recognized Jerusalem as the capital of Israel as a new US Embassy opened there.
U.S. Ends Funding Of U.N. Agency That Supports Palestinian Refugees


4) as well as keeping Saudi's government strong versus Iran:
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/ar...onship/572905/



Sometimes G1, I'm not sure if you are trolling or not engaging in honest discussion because you seem more than smart enough to know the policy changes that Trump has made, but then make twisted or dissheveled arguments that he didn't.

Clearly Trump has given policies favoring Israel and Saudi Arabia high priority. Clearly ISIS who we were told had a new unstoppable caliphate built on ancient lands no longer contros those lands. Clearly Trump has stated his intention to use Gitmo as an intelligence gathering tool.

None of these things are really even debatable. The left hates them because they go against the new social globalism, but they don't deny the policy changes.

Did you even read the link? You are saying trumps policies are just stopping all of Obama's policies ........and if you would read the whole link you posted you would see that trump has done more harm than good.