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View Poll Results: Who gets your game ball for the Redskins 20-13 win over the Giants?
Peterson 17 38.64%
Swearinger 16 36.36%
Ioannidis 8 18.18%
Kerrigan 1 2.27%
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Old 10-28-2018, 09:06 PM   #1
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Yeah we'll see when we fall behind to a team like NO, Minn or LA how how much of an offensive comeback we make. So far we fall behind and there's no answer.

Well, let’s not fall behind

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Old 10-28-2018, 09:10 PM   #2
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Well, let’s not fall behind

Pretty simple
Easier said than done, I'm sure the D will have a bad day eventually (hope not).
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Old 10-28-2018, 09:06 PM   #3
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Re: Giants Postgame

I agree with the others, we might be winning for now, but it seems like you guys have forgotten 2008 if you think winning ugly is a long-term strategy for success in this league.

Smith and our playmakers did enough to win today, but he still looks out of sync with the weapons so far. We are winning on the strength of our D, and when our D is not at their best we will have a hard time continuing to win. That will be cause for concern next week against the Falcons if our D can't slow them down.
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Re: Giants Postgame

We notice when Alex doesn’t put up passing numbers but we underrate just how valuable it is to take care of the ball. Alex is a good complementary piece to the way we’re built : we run the ball and we stop the run.

Has there ever been another formula that has won in DC?

Take care of the ball first and let your defense win. Nothing wrong with this at all.
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Old 10-29-2018, 01:40 AM   #5
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We notice when Alex doesn’t put up passing numbers but we underrate just how valuable it is to take care of the ball. Alex is a good complementary piece to the way we’re built : we run the ball and we stop the run.

Has there ever been another formula that has won in DC?

Take care of the ball first and let your defense win. Nothing wrong with this at all.
Passing for under 200 yards per game and literally getting no big plays out of your QB will not be a winning formula . Smith is basically being carried by the rest of the team. We won't beat any elite teams or contend for a SB with this kind of QB play.
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Old 10-29-2018, 03:33 AM   #6
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We notice when Alex doesn’t put up passing numbers but we underrate just how valuable it is to take care of the ball. Alex is a good complementary piece to the way we’re built : we run the ball and we stop the run.

Has there ever been another formula that has won in DC?

Take care of the ball first and let your defense win. Nothing wrong with this at all.
This.

I'm not sure I understand the complaints: isn't building a football team from the trenches, having a very good D, running the ball, and not turning it over THE recipe to going deep into the playoffs?

Did you guys thought we would turn into the Saints or the Patriots overnight ? Well guess what, Alex Smith is neither Brees nor Brady, and Jay sure isn't Belichick !


I know this team doesn't look like a late January team, BUT I love the way they are winning ugly and:

-A part from Houston, none of our remaining opponents have a winning record (and I thought the winning record was the only way to judge a team when some of you were calling for Jay's head ?)

-Alex is not playing well right now, but early in the game, the short passing game was clicking, I've been thinking for a few weeks now that Jay should call more of that. This is a lot of what Andy Reid was doing with Alex in KC, (last season deep ball frenzy was a fluke, and we have nobody near Tyreek Hill on our roster). Alex Smith won't turn into something he's not, but if you can develop a short and somewhat "tricky" passing game, we'll have ourselves a very decent offense.

-Do you think Blake Bortles is better than Alex Smith? Look at what the Jags did last year.

-We're 5 and 2 for F's sake, why are we arguing ?
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Old 10-29-2018, 07:38 AM   #7
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This.

I'm not sure I understand the complaints: isn't building a football team from the trenches, having a very good D, running the ball, and not turning it over THE recipe to going deep into the playoffs?

Did you guys thought we would turn into the Saints or the Patriots overnight ? Well guess what, Alex Smith is neither Brees nor Brady, and Jay sure isn't Belichick !


I know this team doesn't look like a late January team, BUT I love the way they are winning ugly and:

-A part from Houston, none of our remaining opponents have a winning record (and I thought the winning record was the only way to judge a team when some of you were calling for Jay's head ?)

-Alex is not playing well right now, but early in the game, the short passing game was clicking, I've been thinking for a few weeks now that Jay should call more of that. This is a lot of what Andy Reid was doing with Alex in KC, (last season deep ball frenzy was a fluke, and we have nobody near Tyreek Hill on our roster). Alex Smith won't turn into something he's not, but if you can develop a short and somewhat "tricky" passing game, we'll have ourselves a very decent offense.

-Do you think Blake Bortles is better than Alex Smith? Look at what the Jags did last year.

-We're 5 and 2 for F's sake, why are we arguing ?
I have called for running the ball for a long time because it’s the primary reason why teams win and go far in the playoffs...I love it. It’s redskins football.

The issue is Alex Smith the last several years has been a very good qb...and Jay Gruden offense in the last couple year is known for have a good passing scheme. So to watch the qb play this year has been disappointing. Especially when I heard Alex is the best deep ball passer and was great in the red zone. He has time to throw the ball, protection isn’t an issue. It would be nice to have a middle and deep range passing attack...we have opportunities bc defense are creeping and going single high safety against us.

I want to see steps...I think Jay needs to look at the play action game...execution and scheme. RPO execution, can we get better opportunities? Maybe add a burner WR to help open up the down field opportunities.

I’m offering solutions...to say, “this is the Alex we envisioned” is simply dishonest.
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I have called for running the ball for a long time because it’s the primary reason why teams win and go far in the playoffs...I love it. It’s redskins football.

The issue is Alex Smith the last several years has been a very good qb...and Jay Gruden offense in the last couple year is known for have a good passing scheme. So to watch the qb play this year has been disappointing. Especially when I heard Alex is the best deep ball passer and was great in the red zone. He has time to throw the ball, protection isn’t an issue. It would be nice to have a middle and deep range passing attack...we have opportunities bc defense are creeping and going single high safety against us.

I want to see steps...I think Jay needs to look at the play action game...execution and scheme. RPO execution, can we get better opportunities? Maybe add a burner WR to help open up the down field opportunities.

I’m offering solutions...to say, “this is the Alex we envisioned” is simply dishonest.
I agree this is not the Alex we envisioned, but to hope that he was going to reproduce last year's deep ball productivity is delusional IMO.
Give me the efficient short passing game version of Alex Smith right now and this team is virtually unstoppable, don't try to turn him into something he's not.

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Old 10-29-2018, 08:38 AM   #9
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Re: Giants Postgame

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We notice when Alex doesn’t put up passing numbers but we underrate just how valuable it is to take care of the ball. Alex is a good complementary piece to the way we’re built : we run the ball and we stop the run.

Has there ever been another formula that has won in DC?

Take care of the ball first and let your defense win. Nothing wrong with this at all.
Exactly. A team can win a lot of games playing that style.
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Old 10-28-2018, 10:07 PM   #10
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Re: Giants Postgame

I wish Alex would cut it loose more. But then if he cut it to the other team, I'd get pissed.

Alex is a leader and winner. We didn't win because of him. But we did freaking win baby. He didn't make us lose.

This defense is just nasty right now and that is just flat out fun to watch. Swearinger is a damn baller right now and the front 7 is offended by any runnning yards allowed. The colder it gets the more you can win with straight amazing defense. I'll take a powerhouse D over a flashy O all damn day.
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Old 10-28-2018, 10:19 PM   #11
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Was scared about this game...don't care how ugly it was...wins are wins. Am loving our defensive linemen. We will need to shore up the passing game if we want to take that next step. Our play action game should be lights out.
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Old 10-28-2018, 11:03 PM   #12
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Matty I with 2.5 sacks today, just ridiculous
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Old 10-28-2018, 11:49 PM   #13
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Re: Giants Postgame

It’s a cliche, but this team is learning how to win. And they’re developing an identity courtesy of DJS and the Bama Bruisers.

It’s an interesting discussion about why Smith isn’t clicking more with his pass catchers, especially on play action. But if he can manage clock-eating drives with lots of 2nd and shorts, it’s kind of academic. I think he and Gruden will come up with more quick hitters to get some rhythm going. In the meantime, ugly is beautiful.

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Old 10-29-2018, 08:15 AM   #14
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3 wins in a row. that is huge. WOW.

We had a good offense the last 3 years but it didn't matter because our defense sucked and we lost.

We now have a good defense, but now our offense sucks. But guess what, we are winning. So with just using a little bit of logic, we might be able to surmise that when you build a winning team, first concentrate on your defense, make that great, and then concentrate on your offense.

Our offense can only get better, so can I dare say, "we are moving in a positive direction".
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3 wins in a row. that is huge. WOW.

We had a good offense the last 3 years but it didn't matter because our defense sucked and we lost.

We now have a good defense, but now our offense sucks. But guess what, we are winning. So with just using a little bit of logic, we might be able to surmise that when you build a winning team, first concentrate on your defense, make that great, and then concentrate on your offense.

Our offense can only get better, so can I dare say, "we are moving in a positive direction".
Minor gripe, the passing game may stink, but the running game is a beast.
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