When is Enough ,Enough?

[Back2RFK]

Originally Posted by Giantone

trump tries to take credit for the economy yet it was Obama's and I get hell for saying it.



Unemployment rate by year,

2009- 9.9%
2010- 9.3%
2011- 8.5%
2012- 7.9%
2013- 6.7%
2014- 5.6%
2015- 5.0%
2016- 4.7%
2017- 4.1%
2018- 3.8%

Under Obama the unemployment rate fell from 9.9% to 4.7% (a decrease of 5.2%)
Under Trump the unemployment rate fell from 4.1% to 3.8% (a decrease of 0.3%)
https://www.thebalance.com/unemploym...y-year-3305506
https://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS14000000

In Obama's last 11 months in office 2.09 million jobs were added.
In the last 11 months while Trump was in office 1.84 million jobs were added.
Trump's first-year jobs record was strong. Just not as strong as Obama's last year - Jan. 5, 2018

Could you please explain how Obama stopped black Americans from getting jobs, and how Trump helped black Americans get jobs?



Obama passed the "Home Affordable Modification Program (HAMP), the Neighborhood Stabilization Program, the Federal Housing Administration Refinance Programs and the Emergency Homeowner Relief Fund" all of which helped homeowners. And now Trump is abolishing all those programs.
https://money.cnn.com/2011/02/25/new...help/index.htm

Trumps budget make drastic cuts to affordable housing programs that "help millions of low income seniors, people with disabilities, families with children, veterans, and other vulnerable people afford their homes." Trump wants to cut HUD by $8.8 billion dollars or 18.3-percent compared to 2017 levels.
https://nlihc.org/article/president-...bruary-12-2018

And Trump has already transferred the above funding to the richest 1% of Americans via the Trump tax cuts.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/janetno...nalysis-finds/

What has Trump done to help black Americans keep their homes?

Your right. With Obama all that was bad was because of Bush all that was good was because of Obama. Now all that's good is because of Obama and all that's bad is because of Trump. You can't have it both ways. When Unemployment is 9.9 its has to come down. When its 4.7 its tougher to bring it down.

"What has Trump done to help black Americans keep their homes?"

Well black unemployment is at its lowest in the history of this country.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by Back2RFK

Your right. With Obama all that was bad was because of Bush all that was good was because of Obama. Now all that's good is because of Obama and all that's bad is because of Trump. You can't have it both ways. When Unemployment is 9.9 its has to come down. When its 4.7 its tougher to bring it down.

"What has Trump done to help black Americans keep their homes?"

Well black unemployment is at its lowest in the history of this country.

Thanks Obama! Tougher??? You made me go here, ................look at what Obama walked into and then look what trump was left with . Thanks Obama.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by Giantone

Thanks Obama! Tougher??? You made me go here, ................look at what Obama walked into and then look what trump was left with . Thanks Obama.

Just curious, can't we say thanks to Obama and acknowledge that he stabilized an economy that was in tatters, and still acknowledge that Trump has moved it from a recovery economy to a growth economy.

I can. I have in this thread said that Obama deserves props for setting a base growth and coming in when the economy was sour and riding out that wave.

I also have said that Trump and the Republicans have encouraged growth with pro-growth policies.

Neither of these are mutually exclusive, nor should they be.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Just curious, can't we say thanks to Obama and acknowledge that he stabilized an economy that was in tatters, and still acknowledge that Trump has moved it from a recovery economy to a growth economy.

I can. I have in this thread said that Obama deserves props for setting a base growth and coming in when the economy was sour and riding out that wave.

I also have said that Trump and the Republicans have encouraged growth with pro-growth policies.

Neither of these are mutually exclusive, nor should they be.

We could if trump actually had policies other than dumping all of Obama's policies.Cutting restrictions and safe guards that where in place to save and take care of the American people for the "best interest of Corporations"is not a win policy for the country.

[Back2RFK]

Originally Posted by Giantone

We could if trump actually had policies other than dumping all of Obama's policies.Cutting restrictions and safe guards that where in place to save and take care of the American people for the "best interest of Corporations"is not a win policy for the country.

What safe guards has he cut that hurt employees?

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by Giantone

We could if trump actually had policies other than dumping all of Obama's policies.Cutting restrictions and safe guards that where in place to save and take care of the American people for the "best interest of Corporations"is not a win policy for the country.

You, and others of your hate trump club, need to find a way to accept that the about half the country feels different from you. (the same - when including sampling errors- as Pres Obama at the same period whose was 43% ).

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/ep...oval-6179.html
Poll Date Sample Approve Disapprove Spread
RCP Average 10/8 - 10/29 -- 44.0 52.6 -8.6
Reuters/Ipsos 10/17 - 10/23 2062 LV 46 52 -6

It's fine that you, and others, disagree with his platform, but it's abominable that you make it sound like it's anything other then simply policy disagreements.

People complain at Trump's speech, but he's often is reflecting back the disdain your club sends towards him.

[gmiujk]

I'm not reading those articles, because its not my argument, but any article by The Atlantic is a non starter. And there are sites on the right you could say the same for.

[Buffalo Bob]

Every liberal who is driven insane by Trump needs to step back and think why he was elected. He was elected because they nominated a piece of human garbage considered worse than he was. If the 2016 presidential election in the USA wasn't Giant Douche vs Turd Sandwich give me another example. For the record I always vote, even in special elections for dog catcher, I don't believe in wasting votes as in voting for 3rd party candidates with no chance. I tried to pick one, but ended up writing in Will Seemore.

[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by gmiujk

I'm not reading those articles, because its not my argument, but any article by The Atlantic is a non starter. And there are sites on the right you could say the same for.

Bold 1st post. Very bold.

[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by gmiujk

I'm not reading those articles, because its not my argument, but any article by The Atlantic is a non starter. And there are sites on the right you could say the same for.

You might be the 1st warpather here who's 1st comment was in the political section. Bold move Cotton.