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Old 11-01-2018, 06:05 PM   #1
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to be fair they did a pretty good job of getting into Mexico, and that's a relatively small geographic area to cross. Right now the caravan could go to any point on the southern border, and if Trump had done nothing, and let the border patrol handle it with no extra capabilities, likely they could have crossed in sporadic groups somewhere along the rio grande at night time.


What you don't think the Border patrol works at night? I love it..."no extra capabilities" ,so send police,send State police . You're reaching to justify the illegal use of the military.
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Old 11-01-2018, 06:08 PM   #2
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What you don't think the Border patrol works at night? I love it..."no extra capabilities" ,so send police,send State police . You're reaching to justify the illegal use of the military.
Pretty sure the military defending the border, is likely a constitutionally ok thing.

you seem to stretching to justify bashing any move by trump.
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Old 11-01-2018, 06:12 PM   #3
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Pretty sure the military defending the border, is likely a constitutionally ok thing.

you seem to stretching to justify bashing any move by trump.
Are we at war with these people ,have I missed where trump declared war on these people??? There are people assigned to do that job,no,it is not the job of the Military unless this is an emergency and as has been pointed out...........it's not.
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Old 11-01-2018, 06:26 PM   #4
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Are we at war with these people ,have I missed where trump declared war on these people??? There are people assigned to do that job,no,it is not the job of the Military unless this is an emergency and as has been pointed out...........it's not.
are we at war in syria? have we declared war in the persian gulf?

Have we declared war in Somalia or other areas the military has flown relief missions.

How about Trump declares the caravan a human tragedy (which it is) and authorizes the military to airlift them back to their home land?

stretch all you want, the military acting in support of border patrol agents is not an illegal act.

From 2013 Congressional Research Service:
Securing America’s Borders:
The Role of the Military
R. Chuck Mason
Legislative Attorney
February 25, 2013

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The military indirectly supports border security and immigration control efforts under general legislation that authorizes the Armed Forces to support federal, state, and local LEAs. Since the early 1980s, Congress has periodically authorized an expanded role for the military in providing support to LEAs. Basic authority for most DOD assistance was originally passed in 1981 and is contained in Chapter 18 of Title 10 of the U.S. Code—Military Support for Civilian Law Enforcement Agencies. Under Chapter 18 of Title 10, Congress authorizes DOD to share information (§371); loan equipment and facilities (§372); provide expert advice and training (§373); and maintain and operate equipment (§374). For federal LEAs, DOD personnel may be made available, under Section 374, to maintain and operate equipment in conjunction with counterterrorism operations (including the rendition of a suspected terrorist from a foreign country) or the enforcement of counterdrug laws, immigration laws, and customs requirements. For any civilian LEA, Section 374 allows DOD personnel to maintain and operate equipment for a variety of purposes, including aerial reconnaissance and the detection, monitoring, and communication of air and sea traffic, and of surface traffic outside the United States or within 25 miles of U.S. borders
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Old 11-01-2018, 06:52 PM   #5
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are we at war in syria? have we declared war in the persian gulf?

Have we declared war in Somalia or other areas the military has flown relief missions.

How about Trump declares the caravan a human tragedy (which it is) and authorizes the military to airlift them back to their home land?

stretch all you want, the military acting in support of border patrol agents is not an illegal act.

From 2013 Congressional Research Service:
Securing America’s Borders:
The Role of the Military
R. Chuck Mason
Legislative Attorney
February 25, 2013


From your own post..........

"The military indirectly supports border security and immigration control efforts under general legislation that authorizes the Armed Forces to support federal, state, and local LEAs. Since the early 1980s, Congress has periodically authorized an expanded role for the military in providing support to LEAs" CONGRESS"authorized ,not trump.................,you're defending trump trying to be a dictator.
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