Bucs Postgame

[mooby]

Originally Posted by MTK

Why isn’t it sustainable? A good defense goes a long way.

If the Bucs don't miss a couple field goals or convert once inside the red zone, we could be looking at a different game today.

Last week we saw what happens when an offense completes drives, the results aren't close.

Have we made progress as a D? Abso-fuckin-lutely. Is there still a long way to go? Abso-fucking-lutely. The run d was not that impressive today, the pass d was even worse. The depth has to get better to the point where a guy like Danny Johnson gets cut out of training camp, instead of actually making the roster let alone playing on game days.

Our offense has clearly regressed, and who knows how much worse it'd be if AP hadn't signed. Could you imagine Perine or Bibbs being our starting backs this year? No offense to Bibbs, but he still ain't much compared to old man Peterson.

Also our FO clearly failed at replacing Garcon and Jackson. As they failed at having interior depth on the o-line (no, one winning game does not mean the plan worked).

Finally, ask yourself this: Would you rather this be a 2005 type year, aka a single good season in the midst of years of losing, or would you rather see this team build a roster that competes for championships every year?

The defense is good. Still has room to be great. That's all we got right now. Last year the offense was good, now it has regressed (partly through injury, partly through losing talent).

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by mooby

If the Bucs don't miss a couple field goals or convert once inside the red zone, we could be looking at a different game today.



Last week we saw what happens when an offense completes drives, the results aren't close.



Have we made progress as a D? Abso-fuckin-lutely. Is there still a long way to go? Abso-fucking-lutely. The run d was not that impressive today, the pass d was even worse. The depth has to get better to the point where a guy like Danny Johnson gets cut out of training camp, instead of actually making the roster let alone playing on game days.



Our offense has clearly regressed, and who knows how much worse it'd be if AP hadn't signed. Could you imagine Perine or Bibbs being our starting backs this year? No offense to Bibbs, but he still ain't much compared to old man Peterson.



Also our FO clearly failed at replacing Garcon and Jackson. As they failed at having interior depth on the o-line (no, one winning game does not mean the plan worked).



Finally, ask yourself this: Would you rather this be a 2005 type year, aka a single good season in the midst of years of losing, or would you rather see this team build a roster that competes for championships every year?



The defense is good. Still has room to be great. That's all we got right now. Last year the offense was good, now it has regressed (partly through injury, partly through losing talent).

I think they showed the stat that only like three other times in recent or not so recent history has a team been held to so little points with over 500 yards. In other words usually that over 500 yards from the opposing offense gets you a big fat L. Yes we absolutely made a couple nice plays to get the turnover but it was absolutely not a good showing by the D as far as the coming weeks are concerned. Between the last two weeks we have been absolutely gashed.
How many times have all the people crying about being negative after a win today said “man we beat ourselves today - we should have won - we were the better team - that other team couldn’t stop us we stopped ourselves? Well it works both ways. Today the Bucs beat the Bucs and we just happened to be there. As always let’s see what the future holds. Im not drinking the kool aid yet. Not until there are more tests run on its toxicity.

[Buffalo Bob]

What does a team that has 500 yards total offense average in points scored?
It has to be 40+. I cannot believe the Redskins let them march up and down the field and only gave up 3 points. I just listened on the radio. my TV died yesterday I could not have watched if I wanted to. The game must have been something to watch. Look at that, with a QB that doesn't turn the ball over, with a great punter and decent place kicker you can win by double digits on the road while being out gained by over 200 yards!

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by Buffalo Bob

What does a team that has 500 yards total offense average in points scored?
It has to be 40+. I cannot believe the Redskins let them march up and down the field and only gave up 3 points. I just listened on the radio. my TV died yesterday I could not have watched if I wanted to. The game must have been something to watch. Look at that, with a QB that doesn't turn the ball over, with a great punter and decent place kicker you can win by double digits on the road while being out gained by over 200 yards!

The yards are tough but TB is the #2 ranked Offense in football, they can score too so giving up 3 is amazing on the road, and the TO's were all forced not by luck.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Buffalo Bob

What does a team that has 500 yards total offense average in points scored?

It has to be 40+. I cannot believe the Redskins let them march up and down the field and only gave up 3 points. I just listened on the radio. my TV died yesterday I could not have watched if I wanted to. The game must have been something to watch. Look at that, with a QB that doesn't turn the ball over, with a great punter and decent place kicker you can win by double digits on the road while being out gained by over 200 yards!

You forgot a few key factors that were out of control like
1) the bucs shot their feet right off
2) the bucs were an absolute dumpster fire
3) the bucs handed us the game on a silver platter
It had shit to do with Alex Smith not turning the ball over. Lol. You can’t turn the ball over when you play afraid and miss everyone by a country mile when you wind up and launch the ball over 9 yards. Shit I don’t turn the ball over either probably because I take as many shots downfield as he does every Sunday.
Quarterback is a big fat problem for us.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by punch it in

You forgot a few key factors that were out of control like
1) the bucs shot their feet right off
2) the bucs were an absolute dumpster fire
3) the bucs handed us the game on a silver platter
It had shit to do with Alex Smith not turning the ball over. Lol. You can’t turn the ball over when you play afraid and miss everyone by a country mile when you wind up and launch the ball over 9 yards. Shit I don’t turn the ball over either probably because I take as many shots downfield as he does every Sunday.
Quarterback is a big fat problem for us.

He's horrible on the deep ball, that is for sure but he did make an awesome throw in the RZ, which he is very good down there

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

He's horrible on the deep ball, that is for sure but he did make an awesome throw in the RZ, which he is very good down there

Yes on that drive he threw two really nice tight passes. Not going to say he is very good down there based off one drive. I think SF mentioned that we get a few guys back this week including Crowder n CT. TW will be back fairly soon too. We will see. I am extremely cautiously optimistic right now. Our schedule is not easy. Other than the Gints which is still a division rival we really have some tough games. Health, and Coaching (oh boy) are going to be the key down the stretch. Texans r next on the docket gonna be a tough one.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Yes on that drive he threw two really nice tight passes. Not going to say he is very good down there based off one drive. I think SF mentioned that we get a few guys back this week including Crowder n CT. TW will be back fairly soon too. We will see. I am extremely cautiously optimistic right now. Our schedule is not easy. Other than the Gints which is still a division rival we really have some tough games. Health, and Coaching (oh boy) are going to be the key down the stretch. Texans r next on the docket gonna be a tough one.

He's got 8 Tds to 0 Ints in the RZ. That is very good. Not amazing but he's not that kind of QB.

[FrenchSkin]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Yes on that drive he threw two really nice tight passes. Not going to say he is very good down there based off one drive. I think SF mentioned that we get a few guys back this week including Crowder n CT. TW will be back fairly soon too. We will see. I am extremely cautiously optimistic right now. Our schedule is not easy. Other than the Gints which is still a division rival we really have some tough games. Health, and Coaching (oh boy) are going to be the key down the stretch. Texans r next on the docket gonna be a tough one.

That is the game I'm the least confident we can win. Not saying others are gimmee. But I'm really not expecting to beat the Texans coming off a bye week...

Heck, what am I talking about? Next week? F' me! We just won! First in the division, HTTR!