Bucs Postgame

[MTK]

Originally Posted by FrenchSkin

THERE! You have it ! That. Was. The . Plan !

Hats off to Manusky, take your 500 yards, we're not giving you more than 10 points, and we're winning the game!

Don't get beat deep and give Fitzpatrick enough rope and he'll eventually hang himself.

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by MTK

Don't get beat deep and give Fitzpatrick enough rope and he'll eventually hang himself.

Exactly. That was Part I of the plan. Part II of the plan was to not turn the ball over ourselves. The Plan was sound and it worked!

This game was actually very well planned by the coaching staff and well executed, for the most part, by the players. It was an Old School Redskins win. George Allen would have been very proud.

The Redskins won a lot of games under George Allen and Allen drove me crazy with his conservative offense during most of them - all the way to the Super Bowl!

Look, the Head Coach needs to be able to assess his team's strengths and weaknesses and find a way to win with the personnel he has to work with. Jay Gruden is doing just that. Get used to the idea that we'll be leaning on our defense and winning ugly.

I posted here that, at this point in his tenure, Jay Gruden should be judged only by wins and losses. To be fair, i need to stick to that criteria in my own mind. So, by my own standard, Jay Gruden is doing a great job so far this season.

[FrenchSkin]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

Exactly. That was Part I of the plan. Part II of the plan was to not turn the ball over ourselves. The Plan was sound and it worked!

This game was actually very well planned by the coaching staff and well executed, for the most part, by the players. It was an Old School Redskins win. George Allen would have been very proud.

The Redskins won a lot of games under George Allen and Allen drove me crazy with his conservative offense during most of them - all the way to the Super Bowl!

Look, the Head Coach needs to be able to assess his team's strengths and weaknesses and find a way to win with the personnel he has to work with. Jay Gruden is doing just that. Get used to the idea that we'll be leaning on our defense and winning ugly.

I posted here that, at this point in his tenure, Jay Gruden should be judged only by wins and losses. To be fair, i need to stick to that criteria in my own mind. So, by my own standard, Jay Gruden is doing a great job so far this season.

Couldn't agree more my friend!

Only thing that I, knowledgable-wanna-be-fan, think Jay could/should do more is call more short quick passing game and TE/WR screens. It was working well early in the game against the Giants and we don't see it often enough IMO.

[httr198020]

Originally Posted by FrenchSkin

Couldn't agree more my friend!

Only thing that I, knowledgable-wanna-be-fan, think Jay could/should do more is call more short quick passing game and TE/WR screens. It was working well early in the game against the Giants and we don't see it often enough IMO.

Jay Gruden had an explosive offense. He blew that up in favor of his new shitty offense with the new shitty qb that he wanted. Since he's been here this team has had a below average running game. I haven't seen not one thing Jay Gruden has done that warrants giving him any credit. Don't let the 6-3 record fool you. This is not a good football team. Jay Gruden is not a good coach.

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by httr198020

Jay Gruden had an explosive offense. He blew that up in favor of his new shitty offense with the new shitty qb that he wanted. Since he's been here this team has had a below average running game. I haven't seen not one thing Jay Gruden has done that warrants giving him any credit. Don't let the 6-3 record fool you. This is not a good football team. Jay Gruden is not a good coach.

What u talking bout Willis? The Redskins D is the best it’s been since probably the early 90’s, they are young and need to learn to be consistent. Offense is pretty damn good (one of the best OL’s before the injuries). RB where’s Guice? Out for the year, AP doing a solid job. I would like to see AP, Bibbs and CT with a 123 punch. My gripe has been inconsistency and bad tackling, those can be fixed. Did you forget the Zorn/Spurrier years? Those were shitty teams.

[FrenchSkin]

Originally Posted by httr198020

Jay Gruden had an explosive offense. He blew that up in favor of his new shitty offense with the new shitty qb that he wanted. Since he's been here this team has had a below average running game. I haven't seen not one thing Jay Gruden has done that warrants giving him any credit. Don't let the 6-3 record fool you. This is not a good football team. Jay Gruden is not a good coach.

Not saying he is Joe Gibb but right now he's winning with what he has...

Gosh I swear some of you deserve to be sent back to 2010 and watch Rex Grossman start after Donovan F'nin McNabb was benched and we could not run the ball and we had like 3 players who could play proper defense (Fletcher, Orakpo and Hall)... THAT was some great management and coaching right ?

Some of you act like we just had an area of greatness and now we're stuck with a mediocre coach...
Truth is we are slowly but steadily crawling out of an area of awfulness with an average coach who could have gone 3 years without a losing record minus last year's injury bug.

We get it, Jay is average, and if we have a losing record he should be gone. I agree with that. I do.

But if we win the division and a playoff game (and he shouldn't keep his job with less than that), no matter how ""ugly"" it is, ask yourself who's going to come here after he's gone ? Who's going to want the job in DC if winning gets you fired ?

[SFREDSKIN]

For HTTR198020:

https://www.nbcsports.com/washington...18-draft-class

[BaltimoreSkins]

Originally Posted by FrenchSkin

Not saying he is Joe Gibb but right now he's winning with what he has...

Gosh I swear some of you deserve to be sent back to 2010 and watch Rex Grossman start after Donovan F'nin McNabb was benched and we could not run the ball and we had like 3 players who could play proper defense (Fletcher, Orakpo and Hall)... THAT was some great management and coaching right ?

Some of you act like we just had an area of greatness and now we're stuck with a mediocre coach...
Truth is we are slowly but steadily crawling out of an area of awfulness with an average coach who could have gone 3 years without a losing record minus last year's injury bug.

We get it, Jay is average, and if we have a losing record he should be gone. I agree with that. I do.

But if we win the division and a playoff game (and he shouldn't keep his job with less than that), no matter how ""ugly"" it is, ask yourself who's going to come here after he's gone ? Who's going to want the job in DC if winning gets you fired ?

Got to disagree. I think winning the division should warrant keeping his job. We have not had a coach that has won two divisional titles since Joe Gibbs won his 5th in 1991. I don't know if you extend him beyond his 2020 contract, I would wait one more year, but I wouldn't fire him.

[FrenchSkin]

Originally Posted by BaltimoreSkins

Got to disagree. I think winning the division should warrant keeping his job. We have not had a coach that has won two divisional titles since Joe Gibbs won his 5th in 1991. I don't know if you extend him beyond his 2020 contract, I would wait one more year, but I wouldn't fire him.

Good point. With all the offseason talk about Gruden's seat being hot this year, I wasn't sure what was his contract, should've checked. Anyway, I agree, seems reasonable.