Alex Effect - 2019 Draft

[metalskins]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

https://twitter.com/seleneparekhmd/s...21171782549504

Dang! Prayers for Smith. Suddenly, I'm not so worried about him being able to play again, I just hope he's able to get through this without losing half his leg.

[MTK]

It’s funny I was just thinking this week we should be due for some sort of update on Alex and now word of an infection. Not uncommon with that type of injury but still, wish him the best



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[skinsfaninok]

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...esperate-teams

Coach Jay Gruden and team president Bruce Allen never expected to be in this position after signing Alex Smith to a four-year contract extension last March with $55 million guaranteed. There's no telling how Smith will recover from the compound leg fracture he suffered last month -- Thursday brought the troubling news that he's battling an infection related to his leg surgery -- but, unfortunately, the specifics of Smith's contract could force Washington to make an early decision about his future. Even though the Redskins owe $15 million guaranteed to Smith next season, they could decide to cut him before the fifth day of the new league year in 2019 to avoid guaranteeing his 2020 salary.


This is the brutal calculus of NFL injuries. Even in a best-case scenario for Smith's recovery, the Redskins are overdue to draft a potential replacement. Gruden has never attempted to develop a highly drafted young quarterback in Washington. (This all assumes Gruden is around to coach the team for a sixth season, which he deserves considering the awful injury luck his team has had the last two years.) The Gruden family's style is to look for veterans, so perhaps the Redskins could be players in the Teddy Bridgewater or Tyrod Taylor market.


Yuck no thanks on Tyrod or Teddy but I guess we may have no choice

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...esperate-teams

Coach Jay Gruden and team president Bruce Allen never expected to be in this position after signing Alex Smith to a four-year contract extension last March with $55 million guaranteed. There's no telling how Smith will recover from the compound leg fracture he suffered last month -- Thursday brought the troubling news that he's battling an infection related to his leg surgery -- but, unfortunately, the specifics of Smith's contract could force Washington to make an early decision about his future. Even though the Redskins owe $15 million guaranteed to Smith next season, they could decide to cut him before the fifth day of the new league year in 2019 to avoid guaranteeing his 2020 salary.
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I don't think that story is accurate. The contract has injury guarantees for the 2020 season according to spotrac:

Contract Notes:
$55M guaranteed at signing (signing bonus + 2018 salary + 2019 salary)
2020 salary fully guarantees on the 5th league day of 2019, currently guaranteed for injury

If AS' career is at an end, we are on the hook for about 42 million over the next 2 years. or a mid tier qb's pay. We will be looking at 2 rookies, and likely neither will be a projected starter, because with Skins curse we will win 3 of the next 4, back in to the playoffs and pick 22nd...

[jamf]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

I don't think that story is accurate. The contract has injury guarantees for the 2020 season according to spotrac:



If AS' career is at an end, we are on the hook for about 42 million over the next 2 years. or a mid tier qb's pay. We will be looking at 2 rookies, and likely neither will be a projected starter, because with Skins curse we will win 3 of the next 4, back in to the playoffs and pick 22nd...

That last line, LOL!

[sevier2]

With our cap space the way it is, it seems the only feasible option at QB is the draft.

Personally, I would love to see Gruden with a chance to pick "his guy" and develop him from day one. Give me Drew Lock out of Mizzou and put a couple weapons around him.

I know most are against keeping Gruden but I haven't lost faith just yet. Since coming to D.C. his QB situation has been less than ideal. I wanna see what he can do with a rookie QB before giving him the boot.

[jamf]

Originally Posted by sevier2

I know most are against keeping Gruden but I haven't lost faith just yet. Since coming to D.C. his QB situation has been less than ideal. I wanna see what he can do with a rookie QB before giving him the boot.

This is a stretch man.
Gruden has had a ProBowl QB the two previous years.
I'm not going to mention the dudes name but he wasn't a "Less than ideal" QB unless your ideal QB is Rodgers or Brady.

Wanting Gruden to stick around to develop the next Brady or Rodgers would be a mistake. We need a coach that will develop the whole team.

[skinsfaninok]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sport...=.3a594c5a9342

[SFREDSKIN]

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/...aign=editorial

[metalskins]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sport...=.3a594c5a9342

That makes my head hurt.

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by metalskins

That makes my head hurt.

There is a lot of teams like that. A handful of teams have/had a stalwart at qb for a decade. The graphic is misleading.

[metalskins]

Originally Posted by mredskins

There is a lot of teams like that. A handful of teams have/had a stalwart at qb for a decade. The graphic is misleading.

I will say, in context, the chart is dating back to 1999, so 20 years, plus, some of those quarterbacks, like Beck, only played in a few games for one season. Hardly worth mentioning. Still, if you take the quarterbacks who had significant amounts of playing time, you look at:

Brad Johnson
Patrick Ramsey
Mark Brunell
Jason Campbell
Donovan McNabb
RGIII
Kirk Cousins
Alex Smith

I'm thinking more of those who were meant to be the starters, not necessarily those who signed on for a handful of games or were backups playing because of injury. You then see 8 quarterbacks in about a 20 year span.

I mean, if we go back to the pre Snyder years, you still have quite a few quarterbacks just within the 90's: Mark Rypien, Cary Conklin, John Friesz, Health Shuler, Gus Ferrotte, Tim Green, Brad Johnson. I might have missed someone in there. But, the point is, the Redskins haven't really had a franchise quarterback in forever. Heck, there could be an argument that Joe Theismann was never a true franchise QB, but I have always felt he was the last QB I could consider a franchise QB.

[jamf]

Originally Posted by metalskins

I will say, in context, the chart is dating back to 1999, so 20 years, plus, some of those quarterbacks, like Beck, only played in a few games for one season. Hardly worth mentioning. Still, if you take the quarterbacks who had significant amounts of playing time, you look at:

Brad Johnson
Patrick Ramsey
Mark Brunell
Jason Campbell
Donovan McNabb
RGIII
Kirk Cousins
Alex Smith

I'm thinking more of those who were meant to be the starters, not necessarily those who signed on for a handful of games or were backups playing because of injury. You then see 8 quarterbacks in about a 20 year span.

I mean, if we go back to the pre Snyder years, you still have quite a few quarterbacks just within the 90's: Mark Rypien, Cary Conklin, John Friesz, Health Shuler, Gus Ferrotte, Tim Green, Brad Johnson. I might have missed someone in there. But, the point is, the Redskins haven't really had a franchise quarterback in forever. Heck, there could be an argument that Joe Theismann was never a true franchise QB, but I have always felt he was the last QB I could consider a franchise QB.

All those QBs not worth mentioning are the result poor decision making by the team

Let me know if you see a trend:

00-01: Sign Vet QB for playoff run (George, Tony Banks)
02-04: Rebuild with young QB and Vet Journeyman( Ramsey and Hasselbeck)
04-06: Sign Vet QB for playoff run (Brunell)
07-10: Rebuild with Young QB and Vet Journeyman (Campbell and Brunell/Collins)
10-11: Sign Vet QB for playoff run, Andy Reid has a guy... (McNabb)
11-12: Rebuilding with rookies doesn't work, lets get another Vet (Grossman)
12-18: Signing Vets didn't work, Lets trade 3 1st round picks for RG3!
18-Current: Well shit, lets sign a Vet QB to get us into the playoffs, Andy Reid has a guy!

Overpay for an aging vet, rebuild with a young guy, overpay for a vet, rebuild.... The cycle never ends if you are a Redskins fan.

[mredskins]

Sadly we are heading back to the Beck/ Grossman years. I don’t see Alex coming back.

[Irrefutable]

Originally Posted by mredskins

Sadly we are heading back to the Beck/ Grossman years. I don’t see Alex coming back.

SIAP....is there any way Smith goes on the PUP list and his salary is NOT counted? Shazier reconstructed his contract to help Pittsburgh.... granted it was a much smaller contract