Redskins have claimed LB Reuben Foster

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Yep, and for those saying "Why didn't they sign CK" It's because he hasn't played in 2 years and I have not seen any story of him training and actively looking for a job either..

Last I heard about his contract demands, he wanted a good $10M and didn't want to accept less than that because that's what he felt he was worth. If his salary demands dropped to reflect those of a backup QB who hasn't performed particularly well in recent seasons, he might get signed.

Foster counts $1.3M, none of it guaranteed. Kaepernick would cost much more than that.

The almighty dollar drives almost everything.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

What's not talked about enough is the risk / reward from the cap side of things. His cap number next year would be $1.3M if on our roster, and $1.7M in 2020. Absolutely none of that guaranteed. So we can dump him at any time with no cap ramifications.



We can also exercise the option for 2021, if we so chose.



Or, if he plays out his deal here, we can let him leave via free agency and get a comp pick in the deal, depending what he signs for elsewhere.



This is the biggest reason he was signed. No guaranteed money, no cap consequences, talented player. Lots of upside reasons that make you willing to weather the PR storm.



I definitely would have put in the claim myself.

From a pure football standpoint it makes total sense. For a team with an ongoing PR issues and waning interest from long time fans I wouldn’t have done it.




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[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by MTK

From a pure football standpoint it makes total sense. For a team with an ongoing PR issues and waning interest from long time fans I wouldn’t have done it.




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To be honest Matt, unless the team changes the Logo or Name they will be hated on by the media. I was thinking about the team going to this look..


Change the Indian logo to a W and stick with the name. That way the Logo/Redskins can't be connected.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

To be honest Matt, unless the team changes the Logo or Name they will be hated on by the media. I was thinking about the team going to this look..





Change the Indian logo to a W and stick with the name. That way the Logo/Redskins can't be connected.

Yeah but it’s the name that people have a problem with.



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[Buffalo Bob]

It was also noted that in the last 16 games Foster played he hadn't recorded a sack, forced fumble, an interception or lead the team in tackles. Is the guy worth the potential trouble? Obviously in the NFL the better the player is the longer the leash for transgressions.

[irish]

Originally Posted by MTK

Yeah but it’s the name that people have a problem with.



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IMO it the name and logo combo that's the issue. That said I'd just drop the name Redskins and have the team call itself Washington. Keep everything else the same.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by MTK

From a pure football standpoint it makes total sense. For a team with an ongoing PR issues and waning interest from long time fans I wouldn’t have done it.




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When , conceivably, is the first time he could get on the field?

[MTK]

Originally Posted by punch it in

When , conceivably, is the first time he could get on the field?

Not until the league takes him off the exempt list

[metalskins]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

What's not talked about enough is the risk / reward from the cap side of things. His cap number next year would be $1.3M if on our roster, and $1.7M in 2020. Absolutely none of that guaranteed. So we can dump him at any time with no cap ramifications.

We can also exercise the option for 2021, if we so chose.

Or, if he plays out his deal here, we can let him leave via free agency and get a comp pick in the deal, depending what he signs for elsewhere.

This is the biggest reason he was signed. No guaranteed money, no cap consequences, talented player. Lots of upside reasons that make you willing to weather the PR storm.

I definitely would have put in the claim myself.

I'm really glad you mentioned this. For the people asking, "Why not sign Dez, why not sign Kaep, why not sign this player or that player", it's a low risk proposition for the 'skins in terms of money. The Redskins can pretty much drop Foster at any point without losing any money, and the fact that he's still on his rookie contract makes it pretty cheap as well. For someone like Dez or Kaep, much more expensive. Foster is young, and maybe, MAYBE, if he can keep his nose clean, he has a heck of a career ahead of him. Dez is at the end of his career, and Kaep hasn't played in over two years and sucked in that last year he did play.

Yeah, from a PR standpoint, it sucks, but you know what...the heck with PR. The sports media is always salivating over some bad press to come the Redskins way so they can pile on. Mike Jones has already written a scathing review on the move in USA Today. The way I see it is, they want to make this franchise out to be the bad guys, might as well live up to that and become the Stone Cold Steve Austins of the NFL world.

[Schneed10]

Remember, GMs and coaches keep their jobs based on their win / loss record. Not based on whether they drag their team through PR issues, which just like anything else in the media these days passes over as quickly as an east-coast thunderstorm in July.

If I think there's a move I can make that helps me win more games, even if it isn't until 2019, I'm doing it. The stigma of signing the occasional bad apple gets me some egg on my face temporarily, but losing games puts me out of a job.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

Remember, GMs and coaches keep their jobs based on their win / loss record. Not based on whether they drag their team through PR issues, which just like anything else in the media these days passes over as quickly as an east-coast thunderstorm in July.

If I think there's a move I can make that helps me win more games, even if it isn't until 2019, I'm doing it. The stigma of signing the occasional bad apple gets me some egg on my face temporarily, but losing games puts me out of a job.

U said it best, Its about WINNING. Jay knows if this team caves and finishes 7-9 or worse he's most likely fired. I'm sure BA feels the same way, Jay said at the beginning of Pre season "This team needs to win now" He knew the pressure was on.

[REDSKINS4ever]

Nelson Agholor
Jalen Mills
Jordan Hicks

All 3 have Domestic Accusations/Charges. All 3 play for the Philadelphia Eagles.

The Eagles also have the most arrested players on their team in the NFC East.....#facts

[KI Skins Fan]

The longer I live the more shit-birds I encounter or learn about who touch on my personal life. Yet most of these people have been able to cover up their immoral and often illegal shortcomings and have remained employed and even respected. My point is that there are a multitude of character issues among all people but those who are in the public eye are less able to avoid having their failings become an employment problem.

Rueben Foster's bad behavior is a public relations problem for the NFL because he is a player. Meanwhile, Sammy The Shit-bird of Accounts Payable may be twice as bad as Foster but his transgressions are unnoticed because he is a comparative nobody.

So, I say go ahead and sign Foster because the transaction makes perfect sense from a pure football perspective and it's time that we all admit that we probably have many other people employed throughout the rest of the NFL and our society in general who regularly commit immoral and illegal acts but who are under the radar, unpunished, and still employed.

[Schneed10]

As we ride around on our high horses, a glimpse of what Foster brings from a pure talent perspective is at PFF's link below. Understand the PR side, understand the financial side, and finally understand the football impact in detail. This link gives you that last piece.

https://www.profootballfocus.com/new...foster-cover-3

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

As we ride around on our high horses, a glimpse of what Foster brings from a pure talent perspective is at PFF's link below. Understand the PR side, understand the financial side, and finally understand the football impact in detail. This link gives you that last piece.



https://www.profootballfocus.com/new...foster-cover-3

No question he could help out tremendously on the field



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