Time to clean house 1.0.

[FrenchSkin]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

The best thing right now is for this team to win 2-3 games next year. That way everyone will get fired. I'm just not sure there would be anyone capable that could pick the next coach. They'd only pick someone that could get along, like a Gruden or Zorn type.

My hope is that next year shows that this roster has talent, but that the season goes wrong enough for Dan to have no choice but to fire everybody and try to hire some proven coaches to stop this fanbase's erosion.

[KI Skins Fan]

From a 2011 article by Kevin Cowherd:

"It was former Orioles GM Syd Thrift who famously observed of all the talented free agents who spurned the club more than a decade ago: 'It's like we're offering Confederate money.'"

I've long thought that Dan Snyder is a lot like Peter Angelos in the way he ineptly runs his organization oblivious to the perceptions of the outside world. Now, he has finally sunk to the same level as Angelos where good people won't even accept big money to work for him.

[BaltimoreSkins]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

From a 2011 article by Kevin Cowherd:

"It was former Orioles GM Syd Thrift who famously observed of all the talented free agents who spurned the club more than a decade ago: 'It's like we're offering Confederate money.'"

I've long thought that Dan Snyder is a lot like Peter Angelos in the way he ineptly runs his organization oblivious to the perceptions of the outside world. Now, he has finally sunk to the same level as Angelos where good people won't even accept big money to work for him.

Syd was a huge part of the problem in early 2000s. Once Angelos brought in McPhail in 2007 and stayed relatively away the Orioles began to be competitive. I actually hope that Snyder could learn from that hire good ball people and let them make good decisions. Side note: I am very excited about the new O's GM but I know it will be at least 3 years before they start being competitive again.

[skinsfaninok]

Some guys at PFF (Steve , Sam) argue that running the ball isn't a priority in today's league, I disagree with the notion of abandoning the run all together.. I think it's still pretty important as we saw with the Rams Saturday Night.

[KI Skins Fan]

Read the following at risk of becoming deeply depressed.

From cbssports.com, Mike Martz on Sean McVay:

"There's just one of him. This isn't a prototype, they don't just churn these things out," Martz said Tuesday during an appearance on Reiter's Block. "He's unique, he's very special -- as is Sean Payton -- and for some reason, the league thinks that they're all out there. They're not.

These good coaches they came in all kinds of sizes and shapes and ages. The younger generation of coaches, they're not all going to be Sean McVay. You have to understand how different and special this guy really is. Just because someone has been with him doesn't mean he's going to be the next Sean McVay. It just doesn't work like that."

So many of us were upset when the Skins' worthless FO let Sean McVay get away. I posted at the time that they should have fired Gruden and elevated McVay to HC so they wouldn't lose him. It may have seemed to be an extreme position for me to take at the time but it wasn't. If our FO could recognize rare talent and if they were bold enough and decisive enough to make the right moves, then McVay would be our HC right now. Unfortunately, they are not and so he is not our HC. As long as we have an ignorant owner and an unqualified GM, the Redskins will never rise to the level of SB contenders.

At this point, discussing the running game, assistant coaching hires, etc. is nothing more than mental masturbation. They all mean nothing unless the owner hires a competent GM and stays out of his way.

[skinsfaninok]

Yeah it sucks we missed out on McVay, he made Jay look better than what he was clearly.

[sevier2]

There's no way to guarantee McVay would be having the same success here as he is in LA. In fact, I think there's a strong argument to be made that he WOULDN'T have as much success, simply due to our culture/ownership.

McVay would of gotten hired here, sucked for 3 years or so due to this organizations inability to win anything and get relegated back to an Offensive Coordinator somewhere else.

Then we'd all be saying, "See he was way too young for that position."

I'm very happy for Sean and love seeing him succeed. But just assuming his exact success would have transpired here as well is silly. There's a lot that goes into winning, from top to bottom.

We may have had a quality coach but he'd be sandwiched with shit above him and shit below him. Hard to win with that.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by sevier2

There's no way to guarantee McVay would be having the same success here as he is in LA. In fact, I think there's a strong argument to be made that he WOULDN'T have as much success, simply due to our culture/ownership.

McVay would of gotten hired here, sucked for 3 years or so due to this organizations inability to win anything and get relegated back to an Offensive Coordinator somewhere else.

Then we'd all be saying, "See he was way too young for that position."

I'm very happy for Sean and love seeing him succeed. But just assuming his exact success would have transpired here as well is silly. There's a lot that goes into winning, from top to bottom.

We may have had a quality coach but he'd be sandwiched with shit above him and shit below him. Hard to win with that.

McVay went to a team that was loaded with talent, which was being held back by a bad coach (Fisher).

[5superbowls3wins]

Another coach jumping ship. Kirk Olivadotti meeting with Packers for SAME position

Article says other coaches are trying to leave, but they’ve been blocked from talking to other teams. Literally no one wants to coach here.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.hog...b-with-packers


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[RedskinJake]

Originally Posted by 5superbowls3wins

Another coach jumping ship. Kirk Olivadotti meeting with Packers for SAME position

Article says other coaches are trying to leave, but they’ve been blocked from talking to other teams. Literally no one wants to coach here.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.hog...b-with-packers


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If, as reported, Manusky was asking Gruden to back him up in replacing Olivadotti and Torian Gray, it might be that Gruden has asked him to see what options he has. Makes sense and I have no issue with it if it was handled well internally.

[skinsfan69]

The NFL right now basically has a massive 100mg of Viagra hard on for McVay. If you talked to him in passing you'll get a NFL job. It's ridiculous.

[5superbowls3wins]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

The NFL right now basically has a massive 100mg of Viagra hard on for McVay. If you talked to him in passing you'll get a NFL job. It's ridiculous.

We will be watching him like Browns fans watch Bellichek


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[5superbowls3wins]

The funny part about this is that even if they had replaced Manusky it wouldn’t fix a thing. The problems with this organization are NOT Manusky.

But, why not fire Manusky and promote Tomsula?


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[mooby]

Originally Posted by 5superbowls3wins

The funny part about this is that even if they had replaced Manusky it wouldn’t fix a thing. The problems with this organization are NOT Manusky.

But, why not fire Manusky and promote Tomsula?


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Would Tomsula even want to be promoted? His name is on that unconfirmed list of coaches trying to bail on this shitshow.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by mooby

Would Tomsula even want to be promoted? His name is on that unconfirmed list of coaches trying to bail on this shitshow.

Who said Tomsula is any better anyway? lol.

Basically the Redskins kicked Manusky in the balls. They openly had people in for his job. No one wanted to come work here and now they had to go back to Manusky. It's a shitty way to do business in the NFL. Other coaches see this, coaches talk. The Redskins are just screwing themselves and are taking yet another PR hit. It's one of the reasons we're one of the bottom feeders in the NFL when it comes to quality franchises. It wasn't like this when the Cooke's ran the team.