Time to clean house 1.0.

[5superbowls3wins]

Joe Gibbs was at the game and met with Snyder yesterday. There’s a Washington Times piece speculating a Gibbs return. Possibly President, or other front office position

https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2...ly-mess-redsk/


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[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by 5superbowls3wins

Joe Gibbs was at the game and met with Snyder yesterday. There’s a Washington Times piece speculating a Gibbs return. Possibly President, or other front office position

https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2...ly-mess-redsk/


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Gibbs, Cooley...where is Joey T going?

[BaltimoreSkins]

Originally Posted by 5superbowls3wins

Joe Gibbs was at the game and met with Snyder yesterday. There’s a Washington Times piece speculating a Gibbs return. Possibly President, or other front office position

https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2...ly-mess-redsk/


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That reeks of desperation but classic Snyder trying to win back fans by looking to the past and not to the future.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by BaltimoreSkins

That reeks of desperation but classic Snyder trying to win back fans by looking to the past and not to the future.

Exactly, this is his go to move. Fuckin idiot. He needs to get rid of most the front office and bring in an executive from a competent organization to run the franchise.

I don’t want Gibbs, I don’t want Cooley, I don’t want ex skins.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by 5superbowls3wins

Joe Gibbs was at the game and met with Snyder yesterday. There’s a Washington Times piece speculating a Gibbs return. Possibly President, or other front office position

https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2...ly-mess-redsk/


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This is not the main point of the article, but i do get annoyed when writers describe Snyder and Allen as “hiding” in response to the backlash of the foster signing and sending out Williams to take the heat. This implies that Williams is being pushed out there to do something that one of them really should be doing.

Doug Williams is SENIOR VICE PRESIDENT OF PLAYER PERSONNEL. I would say talking to the media about player acquisitions fits squarely in his job description.






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[5superbowls3wins]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

This is not the main point of the article, but i do get annoyed when writers describe Snyder and Allen as “hiding” in response to the backlash of the foster signing and sending out Williams to take the heat. This implies that Williams is being pushed out there to do something that one of them really should be doing.

Doug Williams is SENIOR VICE PRESIDENT OF PLAYER PERSONNEL. I would say talking to the media about player acquisitions fits squarely in his job description.






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But you can BET it wasn’t WIlliams decision to bring Foster in. People typically in Doug WIlliams position make personnel moves WITHOUT people like Snyder and Allen involved, so they can speak on their decisions.

Since Foster reeks of Snyder and Allen THEY can go out in front of the press and explain it


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[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by 5superbowls3wins

But you can BET it wasn’t WIlliams decision to bring Foster in. People typically in Doug WIlliams position make personnel moves WITHOUT people like Snyder and Allen involved, so they can speak on their decisions.

Since Foster reeks of Snyder and Allen THEY can go out in front of the press and explain it


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I highly doubt Snyder is involved in 90% of personnel decisions.... only if a significant contract is involved.

You seem to think that Williams wouldn’t do move this terrible - but he called it “small potatoes.” Williams is the one who said those words. If anything, this indicates that Williams was the driving force behind the acquisition - or if it was him and Allen, Williams was in support of it. You don’t call abusing women “small potatoes” if you were strongly opposed to the move.

Williams May have been a great quarterback, but I’m honestly not impressed with him as the face / voice of the personnel department. In my opinion, neither he or Allen are qualified for their current jobs.

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[SFREDSKIN]

7 questions

https://www.nbcsports.com/washington...ding-offseason

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

7 questions

https://www.nbcsports.com/washington...ding-offseason

From the article:

"4. Pay or Go?

Preston Smith and Jamison Crowder headline the Redskins players that face free agency this offseason. Neither had stellar campaigns in 2018, but both have shown plenty of potential throughout four seasons in Washington."

The part I bolded is something that must come to an end at Redskins Park, among the media that follow the Skins, and among us fans. The very idea that a player is still showing "potential" after four years on the roster is rubbish. We desperately need to find a sense of urgency from the top down at Redskins Park.

It can never be proven, but I believe that if Jack Kent Cooke still owned this franchise that Bruce Allen and Jay Gruden would be long gone from here. Cooke didn't try to tell the GM or HC how to run the team. Nevertheless, he demanded results from them or they would be fired PDQ. Cooke wanted to fire Joe Gibbs in his first year as HC when the team lost its first five games while trying to run the "Air Coryell" system with which Joe was familiar. Bobby Beathard had to fight to keep Joe Gibbs. But Gibbs had to win to stay and, he realized, that he had to change to win. So, five games in as HC, Gibbs looked at his personnel to see how he might turn things around. That is when "The Hogs" were born and John Riggins, "The Diesel", and his power running became the new focus of the offense. Then the team went 8-3 the rest of the way. OK?

Now, when has Jay Gruden ever changed one fucking thing about his sacred system? Never! Worse than that, he took on the play-calling duties himself, something at which he is entirely predictable, unimaginative, and at which he failed miserably, IMO. He was brought in to win enough to go to the playoffs and compete for championships. He hasn't done that. Why, then should he stay as HC? He shouldn't. He should't. And neither should Bruce Allen.

I think that Dan Snyder has become complacent. Perhaps he's a kinder, gentler version of his old self. Here how I imagine the "new" Dan Snyder's conversations with Jay And Bruce.

Dan: "What's that you guys are telling me? You had a lot of injuries? That's true. I don't know how you poor victims can even field a team, much less win games with such bad luck. You say you haven't been able to find a decent Left Guard for five years? My, they must be very hard to find. Well, keep trying, guys. You say you want to re-sign Preston Smith and Jamison Crowder? Well, if they have the kind of potential you say they do, then I encourage you to re-signed.

Here's how I imagine such a meeting would go with the "old" Dan Snyder:

Dan: "Hey, fuck you two with all your whining and excuse-making! I hired you to build a winning football organization. You both failed. So, you're both fired!"

I think I liked the "old" Dan Snyder better.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

From the article:

"4. Pay or Go?

Preston Smith and Jamison Crowder headline the Redskins players that face free agency this offseason. Neither had stellar campaigns in 2018, but both have shown plenty of potential throughout four seasons in Washington."

The part I bolded is something that must come to an end at Redskins Park, among the media that follow the Skins, and among us fans. The very idea that a player is still showing "potential" after four years on the roster is rubbish. We desperately need to find a sense of urgency from the top down at Redskins Park.

It can never be proven, but I believe that if Jack Kent Cooke still owned this franchise that Bruce Allen and Jay Gruden would be long gone from here. Cooke didn't try to tell the GM or HC how to run the team. Nevertheless, he demanded results from them or they would be fired PDQ. Cooke wanted to fire Joe Gibbs in his first year as HC when the team lost its first five games while trying to run the "Air Coryell" system with which Joe was familiar. Bobby Beathard had to fight to keep Joe Gibbs. But Gibbs had to win to stay and, he realized, that he had to change to win. So, five games in as HC, Gibbs looked at his personnel to see how he might turn things around. That is when "The Hogs" were born and John Riggins, "The Diesel", and his power running became the new focus of the offense. Then the team went 8-3 the rest of the way. OK?

Now, when has Jay Gruden ever changed one fucking thing about his sacred system? Never! Worse than that, he took on the play-calling duties himself, something at which he is entirely predictable, unimaginative, and at which he failed miserably, IMO. He was brought in to win enough to go to the playoffs and compete for championships. He hasn't done that. Why, then should he stay as HC? He shouldn't. He should't. And neither should Bruce Allen.

I think that Dan Snyder has become complacent. Perhaps he's a kinder, gentler version of his old self. Here how I imagine the "new" Dan Snyder's conversations with Jay And Bruce.

Dan: "What's that you guys are telling me? You had a lot of injuries? That's true. I don't know how you poor victims can even field a team, much less win games with such bad luck. You say you haven't been able to find a decent Left Guard for five years? My, they must be very hard to find. Well, keep trying, guys. You want to re-sign Preston Smith and Jamison Crowder? Well, if they have the kind of potential you say they do, then I encourage you to re-signed.

Here how I imagine such a meeting would go with the "old" Dan Snyder:

Hey. fuck you two with all your whining and excuse-making! I hired you to build a winning football organization. You both failed. So, you're both fired!

I think I liked the "old" Dan Snyder better.

The "old" Dan Snyder is why nobody wants to work with the "new" one.