Offseason starts now: A Redskins players thread

[DYoungJelly]

Originally Posted by REDSKINS4ever

The Redskins need to cut Norman, Z. Brown, Mason Foster, Jordan Reed, and Colt McCoy....these releases would open up flexible cap space....

Besides Brandon Scherff, who would we be opening up cap space for?

And we can just extend his rookie deal another year if the team so chooses.

The real question is why is there any reason to think the next batch of free agents would be any better than those?

I'm in favor of moving on from them asap, but there needs to be a plan in place, whether it's trading for draft picks or w/e.

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[REDSKINS4ever]

Originally Posted by DYoungJelly

Besides Brandon Scherff, who would we be opening up cap space for?

And we can just extend his rookie deal another year if the team so chooses.

The real question is why is there any reason to think the next batch of free agents would be any better than those?

I'm in favor of moving on from them asap, but there needs to be a plan in place, whether it's trading for draft picks or w/e.

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They either need to restructure current contracts or build through the draft....replace these players who are either often injured, play poorly, or don't contribute enough....

[Irrefutable]

Originally Posted by REDSKINS4ever

The Redskins need to cut Norman, Z. Brown, Mason Foster, Jordan Reed, and Colt McCoy....these releases would open up flexible cap space....

How would the cap space be used? not on Crowder, P.Smith, or Peterson

sure on Brandon S.

Most free agents are over paid , maybe some on 2nd tier free agents...TE, C, DB

[jamf]

Originally Posted by Irrefutable

How would the cap space be used? not on Crowder, P.Smith, or Peterson

sure on Brandon S.

Most free agents are over paid , maybe some on 2nd tier free agents...TE, C, DB

I would pay AP.
We aren't going to have stellar QB play next year so it's in our best interest to have a dynamic running game.

[REDSKINS4ever]

Originally Posted by jamf

I would pay AP.
We aren't going to have stellar QB play next year so it's in our best interest to have a dynamic running game.

AP deserves a 2 year contract.....I would love to see a two headed godzilla with AP and Guice....I'm not big on FA signings but because of who AP is I'm all for him continuing his career with the Redskins.

[Irrefutable]

Originally Posted by REDSKINS4ever

AP desererves a 2 year contract.....I would love to see a two headed gonzilla with AP and Guice....I'm not big on FA signings but because of who AP is I'm all for him continuing his career with the Redskins.

AP is going to expect a heck of a lot more than he got this year (NFL minimum ) You can give him a 2 year contract, but make it incentive based. NO guaranteed money. How many good 34 year old RBs in the NFL?

[REDSKINS4ever]

Originally Posted by Irrefutable

How would the cap space be used? not on Crowder, P.Smith, or Peterson

sure on Brandon S.

Most free agents are over paid , maybe some on 2nd tier free agents...TE, C, DB

They should redo this team with undrafted rookie free agents and rookies...like the 2012 Indianapolis Colts did...they went from 2-14 to 11-5.

[DYoungJelly]

Originally Posted by REDSKINS4ever

They should redo this team with undrafted rookie free agents and rookies...like the 2012 Indianapolis Colts did...they went from 2-14 to 11-5.

https://www.pro-football-reference.c...012_roster.htm

They didn't have any udfa's in their starting line up.

They did have some aging vets though in Wayne, Freeney and Mathis.

The Brown's are a better example. They have done that the last few years. Trading away talent.

We kinda got a sneak preview at the udfa route toward the end of this season.

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[jamf]

Originally Posted by REDSKINS4ever

They should redo this team with undrafted rookie free agents and rookies...like the 2012 Indianapolis Colts did...they went from 2-14 to 11-5.

They tanked to get Luck.
They had solid talent on the team.

[TheGuyFromOverThere]

Cut all known Women- and/or Child-Beaters and I´m okay, no matter the record.

[skinsfaninok]

THis is one of the least talented rosters in the NFL.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

THis is one of the least talented rosters in the NFL.

def one of the most injured. I feel like we have some decent talent...but in our division we are probably 3rd and that's where it matters most.

Defense: front 7 I would say good talent, secondary now, below avg. Depth: average/above average

Offense: Oline: Average, Skill position: below avg, Depth: bad. QB: avg

Special Teams: Good

We got work to do for sure.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

def one of the most injured. I feel like we have some decent talent...but in our division we are probably 3rd and that's where it matters most.

Defense: front 7 I would say good talent, secondary now, below avg. Depth: average/above average

Offense: Oline: Average, Skill position: below avg, Depth: bad. QB: avg

Special Teams: Good

We got work to do for sure.

The Giants aren't that far behind us and actually having Barkley and Beckham may boost them ahead.

If we don't see major changes to player personnel and coaching/FO , this team could be a 4-12 type roster next yr.

Better go out and add talent to the offense asap.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

The Giants aren't that far behind us and actually having Barkley and Beckham may boost them ahead.

If we don't see major changes to player personnel and coaching/FO , this team could be a 4-12 type roster next yr.

Better go out and add talent to the offense asap.

So I don't know about spending top money on offense. I think actually about divesting in money spent at TE...cut VD and trading Reed...both doable and competent moves. I don't think you spend big at WR or TE. I think there are capable LG for decent money coming on the market. Quinton Spain is one...there is another from Denver I believe....and you have some guys, role players like our old friend Tom Compton who can come in and provide depth in the Interior. I would bring in a blocking TE, pair with Sprinkle and our awesome blocking young white TE (forget name). WR...I would draft someone with a top four round pick and bring in another Vet on a 1, 2 year deal that doesn't break the bank. Id give Crowder a peak, let him test the market, but could bring him back on a cheap deal.

RB...Incentive laden, 1 year deal to AP as a back up role. If he says no... per Kevin Sheehan suggestion...and this has my blessing, get the back up RB Mike Davis from Seattle...shouldn't be expensive. Id role with CT again just because last year of deal and cutting doesn't help the cap much.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

So I don't know about spending top money on offense. I think actually about divesting in money spent at TE...cut VD and trading Reed...both doable and competent moves. I don't think you spend big at WR or TE. I think there are capable LG for decent money coming on the market. Quinton Spain is one...there is another from Denver I believe....and you have some guys, role players like our old friend Tom Compton who can come in and provide depth in the Interior. I would bring in a blocking TE, pair with Sprinkle and our awesome blocking young white TE (forget name). WR...I would draft someone with a top four round pick and bring in another Vet on a 1, 2 year deal that doesn't break the bank. Id give Crowder a peak, let him test the market, but could bring him back on a cheap deal.

RB...Incentive laden, 1 year deal to AP as a back up role. If he says no... per Kevin Sheehan suggestion...and this has my blessing, get the back up RB Mike Davis from Seattle...shouldn't be expensive. Id role with CT again just because last year of deal and cutting doesn't help the cap much.

I think TE and WR are as important as LG now. It's a pass first league and you have to have guys that create space and get open. That is what killed us this season, I think u have to bring Crowder back and hope they can find a top WR in the Draft or go out and sign one but that list is not long. Fitz is 36, he is most likely going to a SB contender.

Then you have these guys.

Cobb - 29 YO
Tate - 31 YO
Moncrief - 26 YO
John Brown - 29 YO

That list is horrible.