Today, Brunell looked like Ramsey

saden1 · 11-13-2005, 09:10 PM

The only bad play that can be attributed to Brunell is the fumble. The Two INTs weren't his faults, especially the first one! The Defense really stunk up the joint today!

Longtimefan · 11-13-2005, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by saden1

The only bad play that can be attributed to Brunell is the fumble. The Two INTs weren't his faults, especially the first one! The Defense really stunk up the joint today!

What defense?

Beemnseven · 11-13-2005, 09:17 PM

I thought it was interesting to see Simeon Rice apply pressure to Mark Brunell on passing plays.

Maybe our defensive ends could try that sometime.

FirstandTen · 11-13-2005, 11:29 PM

Brunell played like Ramsey???????? That's F'ing crazy!!! Yea he fumbled but his INT's were clearly not his fault. The fact that Brunell hits multiple targets, scrambles for key 1st downs, and scrambles to get free to pass is something Ramsey never could do!! I can't belive your questioning a QB who led us to 35pts.. GET REAL!!!

44deisel44 · 11-13-2005, 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by FirstandTen

Brunell played like Ramsey???????? That's F'ing crazy!!! Yea he fumbled but his INT's were clearly not his fault. The fact that Brunell hits multiple targets, scrambles for key 1st downs, and scrambles to get free to pass is something Ramsey never could do!! I can't belive your questioning a QB who led us to 35pts.. GET REAL!!!

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hurrykaine · 11-13-2005, 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by FirstandTen

Brunell played like Ramsey???????? That's F'ing crazy!!! Yea he fumbled but his INT's were clearly not his fault. The fact that Brunell hits multiple targets, scrambles for key 1st downs, and scrambles to get free to pass is something Ramsey never could do!! I can't belive your questioning a QB who led us to 35pts.. GET REAL!!!

If you read the original post clearly, I'm not questionning Brunell starting over Ramsey at all. That debate was settled in Game 2 against the Cowboys, as far as I'm concerned.

What I am questionning is his technique protecting the football when he's under D-line pressure. Let's count the number of games he has fumbled in. Denver, Kansas City (in the red zone), Giants, Eagles (red zone), and today. So, your stellar QB has fumbled the ball in 5 of the last 6 games. That's a problem in need of correction, wouldn't you say? Not by benching him, but by better QB coaching and protection.

44deisel44 · 11-13-2005, 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by hurrykaine

If you read the original post clearly, I'm not questionning Brunell starting over Ramsey at all. That debate was settled in Game 2 against the Cowboys, as far as I'm concerned.

What I am questionning is his technique protecting the football when he's under D-line pressure. Let's count the number of games he has fumbled in. Denver, Kansas City (in the red zone), Giants, Eagles (red zone), and today. So, your stellar QB has fumbled the ball in 5 of the last 6 games. That's a problem in need of correction, wouldn't you say? Not by benching him, but by better QB coaching and protection.

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44deisel44 · 11-13-2005, 11:55 PM

That fumble from Rice ...He HAD tucked it away....Geez

hurrykaine · 11-14-2005, 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by 44deisel44

Your stellar?......NUFF SAID................ALL skins...wow!!! i would never mention any redskin as your!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!

Exactly right. until he stops fumbling, Brunell won't be stellar in my book (even though he's better than Ramsey).

You can't cough it up on a such a regular basis without hurting the team. He's got to stop coughing it up. 5 fumbles in the last 6 games. Our record in those 6 games - you guessed it, 2-4.

railcon56 · 11-14-2005, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by hurrykaine

If you read the original post clearly, I'm not questionning Brunell starting over Ramsey at all. That debate was settled in Game 2 against the Cowboys, as far as I'm concerned.

What I am questionning is his technique protecting the football when he's under D-line pressure. Let's count the number of games he has fumbled in. Denver, Kansas City (in the red zone), Giants, Eagles (red zone), and today. So, your stellar QB has fumbled the ball in 5 of the last 6 games. That's a problem in need of correction, wouldn't you say? Not by benching him, but by better QB coaching and protection.

I agree but if Ramsey fumbled he would be the goat you can belive that..I'm not convinced and i'm not on his bandwagon... and we won't get to the superbowl or playoffs with him... i want him to prve me wrong but if i'm a coach on the other team i bring pressure ...just hit him oh and play the recievers close u will get ints and fumbles...

#56fanatic · 11-14-2005, 08:56 AM

Brunell lost two fumbles, but most QBs are going to drop the ball when Rice pretty much comes clean. The pass protection on the left side was awful. Royal didn't even move on one play, then just stood there as Portis was trying to keep Rice off Brunell. The two INTs we not really Brunells fault. Patten has to come and get that ball instead of waiting for it to get to him. And the screen pass, maybe shouldn't have been thrown at all, but it bounced right into Rices hands. Brunell played a very good game though. In the second half he drove us down the field time and time again, against the NFLs #1 Defense. And we were winning the game late. Brunell is a fighter, thats for sure.

11-13-2005, 09:17 PM	#3
Beemnseven Pro Bowl Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Virginia Beach Age: 52 Posts: 5,311	Re: Today, Brunell looked like Ramsey I thought it was interesting to see Simeon Rice apply pressure to Mark Brunell on passing plays. Maybe our defensive ends could try that sometime.

11-13-2005, 11:29 PM	#4
FirstandTen Special Teams Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Bristow VA Age: 49 Posts: 254	Re: Today, Brunell looked like Ramsey Brunell played like Ramsey???????? That's F'ing crazy!!! Yea he fumbled but his INT's were clearly not his fault. The fact that Brunell hits multiple targets, scrambles for key 1st downs, and scrambles to get free to pass is something Ramsey never could do!! I can't belive your questioning a QB who led us to 35pts.. GET REAL!!! Last edited by FirstandTen; 11-13-2005 at 11:40 PM.

11-13-2005, 11:55 PM	#8
44deisel44 Special Teams Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 260	Re: Today, Brunell looked like Ramsey That fumble from Rice ...He HAD tucked it away....Geez __________________ 90% of the game is half mental-John Madden Pure unadulterated uncompromising ecstasy- Jack K.Cooke

11-14-2005, 08:56 AM	#11
#56fanatic The Starter Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Charlotte NC Age: 51 Posts: 1,801	Re: Today, Brunell looked like Ramsey Brunell lost two fumbles, but most QBs are going to drop the ball when Rice pretty much comes clean. The pass protection on the left side was awful. Royal didn't even move on one play, then just stood there as Portis was trying to keep Rice off Brunell. The two INTs we not really Brunells fault. Patten has to come and get that ball instead of waiting for it to get to him. And the screen pass, maybe shouldn't have been thrown at all, but it bounced right into Rices hands. Brunell played a very good game though. In the second half he drove us down the field time and time again, against the NFLs #1 Defense. And we were winning the game late. Brunell is a fighter, thats for sure.

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11-13-2005, 09:10 PM	#1
saden1 MVP Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Seattle Age: 46 Posts: 10,069	Re: Today, Brunell looked like Ramsey The only bad play that can be attributed to Brunell is the fumble. The Two INTs weren't his faults, especially the first one! The Defense really stunk up the joint today!

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