Did Gibbs Make the Wrong Call?

[htownskinfan]

Originally Posted by skins052bgr8

I don't disagree with keeping the ball on the ground, but do something creative not straight up the middle three times in a row, we did the exact same thing last week three straight up the middle and turned the ball back over to the eagles and they drove right down the field fortunately we got a play from our D at the goal line. We had been driving the ball all game by mixing it up why do the exact same play with the box stacked. If we can see the same run in previous games don't you think other coaches see the tendancies every game in that situation dive in the middle of the pile with no success. I don't care that we ran on them all game, we do the same thing over and over again when we need to run the clock out, how can anyone say it is the right call when we have not been unsuccessful with running out the clock and converting in nearly everygame this year. Tell me when the last time you saw someone even if they new it was coming stop Cooley or Sellers in the flat for a score or a first down. Where was the stretch play let Portis pick his gap.

manyou are exactly right,how can anyone say it was a good call when we lost the game? if we do the rollout you either run for it,make a safe pass,or take the sack,brunells been making great descisions all yr so he's probably not going to make a mistake,we made a lot of mistakes during the game but if you make that first down the game is over,so how anybody can say that was the right call when it didnt work and it cost us the game just boggles my mind

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by htownskinfan

manyou are exactly right,how can anyone say it was a good call when we lost the game? if we do the rollout you either run for it,make a safe pass,or take the sack,brunells been making great descisions all yr so he's probably not going to make a mistake,we made a lot of mistakes during the game but if you make that first down the game is over,so how anybody can say that was the right call when it didnt work and it cost us the game just boggles my mind

I don't understand that logic. Because it didn't work doesn't make it the wrong call. If we were down by one with five seconds left, 4th down, John Hall comes out for the game-winning 25 yard field goal and the kick is blocked....does that make it the wrong call?

[Luxorreb]

Gibbs made the right call running the ball here. Today showed how a 23 yr old QB headed for the junk pile ended up with a 119% QB rating. Our entire secondary looked like freshmen! Running into each other, getting burnt over and over and by Chris Simms! Granted our O put them in a bad situation atleast twice today, but say that's 2 TD's. I think a main problem was Taylor being out as they seemed to do as they pleased with our secondary. Grrrrrrrr.

[skinsfanthru&thru]

I voted yes cuz it made sense with the ease in which the team had been able to run against the bucs defense all afternoon, but I could also have seen them call a bootleg. they had already gone for the bootleg on the 4th down conversion on the previous drive so maybe that's why they decided not to do it that time, who knows. I'm more inclined to question the defense playcalling and lack of a plays made on the defensive side of the ball especially in the 4th quarter. I think today's game demonstrated the teams need to address the defensive end position this off season.

[Luxorreb]

Originally Posted by skinsfanthru&thru

I'm more inclined to question the defense playcalling and lack of a plays made on the defensive side of the ball especially in the 4th quarter.

Gibbs's offense scored 35 pts today and lost. Granted Brunell didn't help his defense with field position a few times today, but ya have to put this loss on the defense. And we weren't playing Plunkett or Elway or hell even Phil Simms, his Fireman Bob son beat us today! No excuse! None.

[Master4Caster]

At that point in the game, the smart strategy is to kill the clock. You do that with a running play. If you don't make it, the clock still runs. You punt it away and rely on your defense. That was a good situation and should have worked.

I question why Gibbs tries to use a sports car like a Mack truck. In that situation Betts, Sellers or Cartwright are better for a tough inside run IMHO.

Portis had a good day and does everything the coaches ask. But he still doesn't get the runs he got in Denver, mostly because our offensive schemes don't run him to the outside enough. He's very good, but we need GREAT.

[NM Redskin]

I agree with the call, O line knows in that situation Gibbs is gonna call a running play. Bottom line, it was two yards and you gotta get those short yardage type plays to win.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by NM Redskin

I agree with the call, O line knows in that situation Gibbs is gonna call a running play. Bottom line, it was two yards and you gotta get those short yardage type plays to win.

It was 3rd and a LONG 2. Closer to 3rd and 3 in my book.

And I totally agreed with Troy Aikman. Remember the play they called on 4th and 2 on the Tampa 35 yard line? That one worked, why not playaction pass and get Cooley into the flat one on one with somebody.

I like Cooley 1 on 1 against a defender a lot better than I like Clinton Portis against a giant pile.

At the time of the decision, there were 2 and half minutes left on the clock. If you run it and don't make it, that still leaves Tampa with 2 minutes to get down the field. That's PLENTY of time. So Tampa was going to have plenty of time to score whether the Skins ran or passed incomplete. If they're going to have plenty of time either way, you might as well take your best shot.

Portis against a pile is not the smartest thing to do.

[cpayne5]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

It was 3rd and a LONG 2. Closer to 3rd and 3 in my book.

It was exactly 2 yards.

[BDBohnzie]

It wasn't a bad call. If C-Po makes the first down, game over. An incomplete throw on 3rd and 2, and the clock stops, giving the Bucs even more time. However, a play action pass would have worked nicely here, and could have given Brunell enough time to find an open Cooley, Kozlowski or Royal in the flats for the 1st.

Hindsight is a lovely 20/20.

[diehardskin2982]

Originally Posted by BDBohnzie

It wasn't a bad call. If C-Po makes the first down, game over. An incomplete throw on 3rd and 2, and the clock stops, giving the Bucs even more time. However, a play action pass would have worked nicely here, and could have given Brunell enough time to find an open Cooley, Kozlowski or Royal in the flats for the 1st.

Hindsight is a lovely 20/20.

I agree with you, but I still think it was a good call. especially because how productive portis was yesterday

[skins052bgr8]

Yeah no kidding what the hell was I thinking this post said no need to respond. Shame on all of us for these 64 + posts. Damn we cannot resist the temptation to just post until the hurt goes away, until everyone agrees with our particular opinion or next Monday when we do the same thing over again.

[irish]

The way the skins were running the ball they had to go with a run there. It keeps the clock moving. Not being able to run the clock out was perhaps the only thing the offense did wrong yesterday but when the game was turned over to "The U" I'm sure nobody thought they would blow it.

Had the skins passed and it not worked Gibbs would have been ripped a new one by everyone. JG made the correect call.

[Schneed10]

There were better calls Gibbs could have made. A pass in the flat to Sellers or Cooley would have made more sense. When it's 3rd and short, I want the ball in the hands of someone with more size than Clinton Portis.

[skinsguy]

It was the right call for the right situation. I think the 2 yards were "too long" for Mike Sellers, which was the reason why you give it to Portis. Even if the team didn't get the first down, the clock continues to run. It's easy to say we should have passed after the fact, but at the point in time, running was the best option.