Alstott get in???

[MTK]

When they showed the last angle of this right elbow hitting the turf, Aikman said he can't be in if his elbow is down because even though you couldn't see the ball, how could the ball be ahead of his elbow?

He didn't make it, the refs didn't have the stones to reverse it.

[TheMalcolmConnection]

I agree. That's a call that the refs were just afraid to make against the home team.

[Redskins_P]

That call and the first "forced" out of bounds play were terrible calls. You could clearly see that Alstott didn't get in.

The refs shit the bed yesterday, but not as bad as the Redskins did with the poor pass coverage and lack of a pass rush.

[hurrykaine]

I'm not going to dwell on that call - it seems that Betts could just as easily be construed as having stepped out of bounds on his big return for a TD. Had the reviewer called that, it would've negated 7 points.

We simply should have picked up the first down on 3rd and 2. Period.

[FRPLG]

We can all agree that the skins should not have been in position to lose that game but lets be honest. The refs are there to make the correct calls. Hell the league even gives them the opportunity to watched video replays to make sure they got close calls right. It is there job to watch the video and get it right. They didn't and that was the deciding score. They blew it not the Skins.

[bjschmonsees]

Alstott was down outside the endzone. Galloway was not forced out. Betts was inbounds for his entire run for the TD. Check the awesome zoom replay. It will be in the highlights later today...

This game reminded me of two games last year. The Green Bay game when Clinton's game winning TD was called back for a phanton illegal motion penalty and The Dallas home game when TO pushed off Springs, but Springs was called for pass interference and Gardner was mugged in the end zone and there was no call...

[MTK]

The force out call was horrible and worse than the two point call IMO.

[celts32]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

The force out call was horrible and worse than the two point call IMO.

I have NEVER seen a force out called on a WR running towards the sideline like that. Those calls are made when a WR leaps up for the ball and a DB never allows him the chance to come down in bounds. This WR was running...he already had one foot on the ground before the DB even made contact. Horrible...horrrible...horrible call! Way worse than the 2 point call...that bad call just occured in the last minute of the game which magnifies it.

[TheMalcolmConnection]

I actually think LaVar was thinking that Alstott would jump like he did the past two times. It's just like blocking a penalty kick in soccer. The goalie jumps one way or another. You have no chance to react.

[diehardskin2982]

it would have never came to this point if the special teams didn't get the off sides penalty. At first they were going for one and it would have went to overtime

[bedlamVR]

It shouldn't come down to one play but it did and the kicker is that one play was ruled wrong, even if we marched up the field and made the game winning field goal it wouldn't make the refs call any righter

[RedskinPete]

Originally Posted by bedlamVR

It shouldn't come down to one play but it did and the kicker is that one play was ruled wrong, even if we marched up the field and made the game winning field goal it wouldn't make the refs call any righter

There are many things done wrong in this one! By coaching staff and players! The refs throw in as well. You just can't play that way or have bad calls! These are the best????? Right????? At the middle of the season it shouldn't be this way!!!

[Luxorreb]

Gibbs to Send Game Tape to NFL
By Gary Fitzgerald
Redskins.com
November 14, 2005



Head coach Joe Gibbs said on Monday that he would send film into the NFL of the disputed two-point conversion play that was pivotal in Tampa Bay's 36-35 victory over the Redskins on Sunday at Raymond James Stadium.
After reviewing the film on Monday, Gibbs said that the footage showed fullback Mike Alstott's elbow was on the ground before he crossed the goal line. Referees and replay officials ruled otherwise.

"We have a very clear film shot of the ballcarrier on the ground about six inches short," Gibbs said. "It was the same thing everybody else saw. We'll turn it in. I don't know what else you can do."

The play was one of several controversial calls during Sunday's game.

Alstott's two-point conversion was preceded by an apparent block of a PAT, but Shawn Springs was called for off-sides on the play. It was Springs who had raced around the left end and blocked the kick. Walt Harris raced around the right end in similar fashion.


Joe Gibbs
Said Gibbs: "We actually felt like we blocked it. We looked at it about 30 times with [special teams coordinator] Danny Smith. We felt like the center picked the ball up a little bit and that we kind of got off right when he picked it up. That block could have won it for us. Again, we'll turn that one in."

Asked what typically happens when he turns in film to the league for review, Gibbs replied: "It's going to come back as, '[The refs] either missed it or [the refs] didn't.' That's what they're going to say. You try to help as best you can and you turn all of that stuff in.

"We're all trying to work together. You want to have as few errors as possible. The best way to do that is to cooperate and send all of this stuff in. And hopefully the next time, it won't happen to us, it'll happen to somebody else."

With the off-sides penalty called, the Bucs had the ball on the 1-yard line for the game-tying PAT. In a gutsy move, Tampa Bay head coach Jon Gruden decided to go for the two-point play. It worked and it proved to be the game-winning points.

On Monday, Gibbs was questioned about going for the block on the PAT.

"We had [a play] that we felt would work," he explained. "Blocking that could have been the play of the game. You take your shot. It's one of those things when it's over, you look back and say 'What if.' For me, I kind of like to go for it and be aggressive. But in this case, you could say that it bit us."

Gibbs has been a longtime supporter of the replay system. On Monday, he said he still supports it.

"If we didn't have it, I'd really be concerned," he said. "At least this way, if there's something that's obvious, you're going to get an overturn on it. I still feel good about the fact that we can review those things."

[56FAN]

Dockery has got to go.he was the one who held on the long pass play to moss. buger mcfarland owned him all day.3 years, he's been here 3 years and is still pulling this crap. and i'm sorry but a man that big should motoring people all over the field but he reacts to the defender instead of dictates.steve hutchison were are you.

[MTK]

I've watched the PAT block play over and over and I'm telling you, it's a damn close call, it looks like Springs and Harris just get a great jump.