Did Gibbs Make the Wrong Call?

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Daseal

Matty -- if we get that first down. Game over and we get a W.

You can say that about anything that happens during a game.

If we don't turn it over twice and spot them easy points it's a different ball game.

If we don't jump offsides and give them the chance to go for two, perhaps it's a different ball game.

If the refs don't call that horrible force out call perhaps it's a different ball game.

If the defense doesn't keep giving up big play after big play, it's a different ball game.

It's convenient to boil the game down to one play, but the game wasn't decided on that one play.

[#56fanatic]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

You can say that about anything that happens during a game.

If we don't turn it over twice and spot them easy points it's a different ball game.

If we don't jump offsides and give them the chance to go for two, perhaps it's a different ball game.

If the refs don't call that horrible force out call perhaps it's a different ball game.

If the defense doesn't keep giving up big play after big play, it's a different ball game.

It's convenient to boil the game down to one play, but the game wasn't decided on that one play.

That is totally right!! If we dont spot them 14 or 21 points we win the game easily. Pass protection broke down early, although the second half was better. The pass to Patten was not a bad pass, but a bad effort on catching the ball. He should have broke towards the ball instead of letting the DB break on the ball. Our D needs some serious adjusting!! We cant give up that many points and expect anything other than a loss. Our Offense is playing as well as I have seen since 97-99(good ole Norv). I think GW may have been a little too aggressive in the end. I think we needed to keep as much help deep as possible especially since we were given up deep balls pretty much the entire game.

[railcon56]

Offenses are too explosive these days cant play and rely on the D to hold them ...Coach Gibbs needs to get that killer instinct step on thier necks ..shoot them in the back ..end it ..dont rely on anyone... i think he did make a mistake......but and what a great gutsy though provoking question TY

[CrazyCanuck]

It was the right call. It took the clock from 2:45 down to the 2-minute warning. Good teams can run when everyone knows they're running (like Gibbs 1.0). You don't need any fancy plays there, just pound it through (see Alstott's 2-pt conversion). We just didn't make it.

This loss is on the defense. If you claim to be a playoff caliber team but can't stop a rookie QB from marching the field with less than 2 minutes and no timeouts, then you have issues. Not to mention they rolled right thru our d on the previous series but luckily stalled at our 10.

[#56fanatic]

Originally Posted by railcon56@comcast.net

Offenses are too explosive these days cant play and rely on the D to hold them ...Coach Gibbs needs to get that killer instinct step on thier necks ..shoot them in the back ..end it ..dont rely on anyone... i think he did make a mistake......but and what a great gutsy though provoking question TY

usually you and I see eye to eye on things, but this time I have to disagree. You run the ball in that situation 99% of the time, or atleast Gibbs does. He always has been this way and probably always will. He won 3 super bowls with his "conservative" calls. we are too deep in our own territory to rish a throw. He may get sacked, fumble, int, what ever. too many risk factors involved to throw. Fact remains, the skins should have been able to run the ball to get two yards. We didn't , so we punted. What I am failing to hear is the fact the punter hit another bad punt. where is Tupa when you need him. the punt was only a net of about 30 yards, beside the fact it was a line drive punt. If he punts the ball deeper, we may be able to hold on. The whole team lost this game, but the punter seems to be getting a free ride here. He has not been a good punter up to this game and I dont see him changing anytime soon. Field position is key in that situation, and he blew it first, then the D blew it big at the end.

[railcon56]

Originally Posted by #56fanatic

usually you and I see eye to eye on things, but this time I have to disagree. You run the ball in that situation 99% of the time, or atleast Gibbs does. He always has been this way and probably always will. He won 3 super bowls with his "conservative" calls. we are too deep in our own territory to rish a throw. He may get sacked, fumble, int, what ever. too many risk factors involved to throw. Fact remains, the skins should have been able to run the ball to get two yards. We didn't , so we punted. What I am failing to hear is the fact the punter hit another bad punt. where is Tupa when you need him. the punt was only a net of about 30 yards, beside the fact it was a line drive punt. If he punts the ball deeper, we may be able to hold on. The whole team lost this game, but the punter seems to be getting a free ride here. He has not been a good punter up to this game and I dont see him changing anytime soon. Field position is key in that situation, and he blew it first, then the D blew it big at the end.

Oh that play didn't lose the game .... but I hate that thing where we play for the last possesion ...offense or defense and win it...we need to put people away...but that 1 play didn't lose the game...and i think the NFL is far more explosive than when gibbs won his superbowls...step on their necks and shoot them in the head..kick em when they are down!!!!