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Old 03-16-2019, 09:04 AM   #1
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How long and tedious is the process?

When are the grades posted?

How many plays are evaluated and for how many plays?

The way your explaining it, all the players, and all the plays are being examined at least twice? Once by a lower level person and once by a supervisor?

I think it's also highly indicative of the reliability of their grades of the grades are never revised after review. Further inquiry into a player's assignment or lack of assignment on a bad looking play.

If grades are never revised up or down like real coaching grades (after watching film with and talking to the player involved) then it also creates a reliability issue.

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The training alone just to get hired takes 3-6 months, you go through a trial period, based on accuracy and speed. If you don't pass they don't hire u.

During the season you are assigned a certain amount of games weekly, every process you do is checked by senior analyst first and then process managers (mine were Zac Robinson (former NFL QB and now with the LA Rams staff) and Tim Beckman who was a former coach in the ncaa and nfl) . So say I grade Case Keenums passing for a game, that is checked off twice before the grades are even posted. This is for every position and snap per game. Every NFL team is a client and most NCAA teams are, with the AAF also coming on this yr.

It's not just watching football like we all do weekly and love, the coaches film comes in the night games are finished and that's when you do Player grades. When working games live you will do other processes like charting field coordinates, penalties, time of possession, pressures , etc.

It's a lot of work, I gained a ton of respect for the company after this season.
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Old 03-16-2019, 09:11 AM   #2
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The training alone just to get hired takes 3-6 months, you go through a trial period, based on accuracy and speed. If you don't pass they don't hire u.

During the season you are assigned a certain amount of games weekly, every process you do is checked by senior analyst first and then process managers (mine were Zac Robinson (former NFL QB and now with the LA Rams staff) and Tim Beckman who was a former coach in the ncaa and nfl) . So say I grade Case Keenums passing for a game, that is checked off twice before the grades are even posted. This is for every position and snap per game. Every NFL team is a client and most NCAA teams are, with the AAF also coming on this yr.

It's not just watching football like we all do weekly and love, the coaches film comes in the night games are finished and that's when you do Player grades. When working games live you will do other processes like charting field coordinates, penalties, time of possession, pressures , etc.

It's a lot of work, I gained a ton of respect for the company after this season.
How quickly after a game are the grades released?

Do supervisors review every play?

How are questions confusion about assignments resolved?

Do players and coaches have any input?

Are grades ever revised?

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Old 03-16-2019, 09:51 AM   #3
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If we are talking numbers what does everyone think of ESPN and the QBR number for quarterbacks that has been around a half dozen or so years? I think it produces some really odd results and is basically useless. ESPN seems to be big on inventing their own grading system for everything no matter how useless it is.
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If we are talking numbers what does everyone think of ESPN and the QBR number for quarterbacks that has been around a half dozen or so years? I think it produces some really odd results and is basically useless. ESPN seems to be big on inventing their own grading system for everything no matter how useless it is.
Qbr is pretty legit. QB Rating is more useless. PFF is good not great.

If you watch football long enough, your eyes won’t lie. I know one thing, the ability of coaching systems and O/D schemes really can affect the player. Getting guys to either play well in their system or developing around a player to exploit strength/cover weakness is a real thing. Which kinda leads to the point of some position unit working in unison than doing there own thing...which makes it harder to grade individual performances. But other times, natural talent is just that. But if that natural talent cannot be polished, then it may not be useful...ie the fastest WR on the field, but can’t route run.

That’s why grading a player...it’s a science , but there is art as well. And if you just stick to the science part...then you won’t be capturing the entire value of the player.
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