New 4th and 15 rule..................

[Skinsfanatic]

Originally Posted by FrenchSkin

I have another idea to rise the % of successful onside kicks: make the kickers practice it more. The fact that these guys can kick it from 60 yards but can't consistently make onside kicks is ridiculous. Most of the time it's really off. If it was more accurate, then it'll probably be something like 80% / 20% for each team to recover the ball. Maybe even 70/30.

Interesting. You know what, it seems like every time it looks like a successful onside, it turns out it only traveled 8-9 yards and they turn the ball over. I bet moving the "minimum yards the ball must travel before being touched" to 7 or 8 yards would greatly increase the chances of the kicking team recovering.

[kct1975]

Originally Posted by Skinsfanatic

Interesting. You know what, it seems like every time it looks like a successful onside, it turns out it only traveled 8-9 yards and they turn the ball over. I bet moving the "minimum yards the ball must travel before being touched" to 7 or 8 yards would greatly increase the chances of the kicking team recovering.

Wow!

Honestly that is the Best Idea I have heard so far!

Not only would reducing the recovery yards increase the chances of the kicking team recovering, but I honestly think that it would lessen the chance of injuries since there is less room for the players to get up speed and hit with force.

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[FrenchSkin]

Originally Posted by Skinsfanatic

Interesting. You know what, it seems like every time it looks like a successful onside, it turns out it only traveled 8-9 yards and they turn the ball over. I bet moving the "minimum yards the ball must travel before being touched" to 7 or 8 yards would greatly increase the chances of the kicking team recovering.

You may very well have a very good point.

But at what point "it seems like every time it looks like a successful onside, it turns out it only traveled 8-9 yards and they turn the ball over" is caused by the fact that the receiving team doesn't try to recover the ball before it travels 10 yards because if they touch it it becomes available for both teams ? If that's the case, moving it to 8 yards wouldn't change much.
But maybe a couple of yards would indeed make it a tad more easy on kickers.

[TheGuyFromOverThere]

Originally Posted by FrenchSkin

You may very well have a very good point.

But at what point "it seems like every time it looks like a successful onside, it turns out it only traveled 8-9 yards and they turn the ball over" is caused by the fact that the receiving team doesn't try to recover the ball before it travels 10 yards because if they touch it it becomes available for both teams ? If that's the case, moving it to 8 yards wouldn't change much.
But maybe a couple of yards would indeed make it a tad more easy on kickers.

I think that´s the reason.

If you want to increase onside kick recovery chances maybe stick to the ten yards but force the receiving team to be 15 yards back at the start of the play. But then you´re back at people meeting head on with a lot of speed.