Dwayne Haskins

[sandtrapjack]

Originally Posted by MTK

If stats had any meaning Haskins would have been the slam dunk #1 pick. Unfortunately they don’t, and 14 teams passed on him. Just the reality of it.


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How many teams picking 1 thru 14 were even looking QB? When the Giants took Jones, my first thought was "There is an outside shot that the Bengals may look at Haskins, but if Cincy does not take him, he is Washington bound".

In truth, you could say the Giants passed on him. But look around the Interwebs today......Giants are getting persecuted for 'the reach' for Jones. Washington getting the praise for a solid first round.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by sandtrapjack

How many teams picking 1 thru 14 were even looking QB? When the Giants took Jones, my first thought was "There is an outside shot that the Bengals may look at Haskins, but if Cincy does not take him, he is Washington bound".



In truth, you could say the Giants passed on him. But look around the Interwebs today......Giants are getting persecuted for 'the reach' for Jones. Washington getting the praise for a solid first round.

Cards, Giants, Bengals, Dolphins



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[sandtrapjack]

Originally Posted by MTK

Cards, Giants, Bengals, Dolphins



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Cards did not need a QB. They traded a couple of draft picks last year to move up for Rosen and he is still under his rookie deal. New coach wanted (did not need) Murray.

Giants...needed QB. They got Jones

Bengals....do not NEED a QB. Dalton is only 31. Never know, however, they might offer a third for Rosen?

Dolphins.....have made no attempt at disguising the fact that they are in full fledged "Tanking for Tua" mode and will go after Tua in next years draft.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by sandtrapjack

Cards did not need a QB. They traded a couple of draft picks last year to move up for Rosen and he is still under his rookie deal. New coach wanted (did not need) Murray.

Giants...needed QB. They got Jones

Bengals....do not NEED a QB. Dalton is only 31. Never know, however, they might offer a third for Rosen?

Dolphins.....have made no attempt at disguising the fact that they are in full fledged "Tanking for Tua" mode and will go after Tua in next years draft.

You're making this way too hard for yourself. All 4 of those teams were potential landing spots for QBs. And needless to say the Cards even took a QB. My point remains if Haskins was some sort of slam dunk prospect he would have went much earlier.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by MTK

You're making this way too hard for yourself. All 4 of those teams were potential landing spots for QBs. And needless to say the Cards even took a QB. My point remains if Haskins was some sort of slam dunk prospect he would have went much earlier.

I agree. Please understand not questioning ability here teams have "systems" and styles and certain QB's fit a certain style Haskins was never going to fit into Shurmur's system it was all so not a secrete that the Skins liked Jones so NY moved up ,no way he would have been there at #16 . I am fine with it and I think NY did well on it's other two first round picks. I think the Cards have screwed up ,the value for Rosen is falling .

[sandtrapjack]

Originally Posted by MTK

You're making this way too hard for yourself. All 4 of those teams were potential landing spots for QBs. And needless to say the Cards even took a QB. My point remains if Haskins was some sort of slam dunk prospect he would have went much earlier.

Maybe....and we are going to agree to disagree.

But if a poll were taken today, it would reflect that other than NYG, there was only one other team with a glaring need at QB. And that team is Washington.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by sandtrapjack

Maybe....and we are going to agree to disagree.



But if a poll were taken today, it would reflect that other than NYG, there was only one other team with a glaring need at QB. And that team is Washington.

I’m not talking glaring needs I was talking about teams that were considered possible landing spots for QBs ahead of Washington. Cardinals, Giants, Broncos, Bengals, Dolphins.



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[NC_Skins]

@kevinsheehanDC

Building was split. Snyder wanted an organizational/roster jolt. Bruce liked him too. Others, not so much at 15. Haskins won't sell many tickets but there will be intrigue to see if he can play. Could prove to be Dan & Bruce's finest moment but I'm not betting on it. #Redskins

[Giantone]

Some thought on Haskins a while ago............


http://www.thewarpath.net/showthread.php?t=64337&page=2

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by sandtrapjack

How many teams picking 1 thru 14 were even looking QB? When the Giants took Jones, my first thought was "There is an outside shot that the Bengals may look at Haskins, but if Cincy does not take him, he is Washington bound".

In truth, you could say the Giants passed on him. But look around the Interwebs today......Giants are getting persecuted for 'the reach' for Jones. Washington getting the praise for a solid first round.

/www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=59&v=26c1yV-iWVQ

[sandtrapjack]

Originally Posted by Giantone

/www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=59&v=26c1yV-iWVQ

Was not an indictment of the pick. My point was simply the reaction out there the morning after the first round. Cannot argue that the Giants are defending their pick and Washington is being applauded for theirs.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by sandtrapjack

Was not an indictment of the pick. My point was simply the reaction out there the morning after the first round. Cannot argue that the Giants are defending their pick and Washington is being applauded for theirs.

No, the Giants are fine.It's fans that have a problem the Giants don't have to defend a thing.

[sandtrapjack]

Originally Posted by Giantone

No, the Giants are fine.It's fans that have a problem the Giants don't have to defend a thing.

Just saying, this is what people keep reading, when Washington is getting praised. Don't shoot the messenger:

Originally Posted by Bleacher Report

Best draft: Jaguars. I think two of the best players from this class will be Kentucky pass-rusher Josh Allen and Florida offensive tackle Jawaan Taylor. The Jaguars got both of them.

Good job: Panthers. Florida State pass-rusher Brian Burns has the chance to help instantly make that defense scary.

Something stinks in here: Giants. They took Duke quarterback Daniel Jones at No. 6 overall. That's like taking Ant-Man when the Hulk and Iron Man are still on the board.