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Old 06-12-2019, 07:18 PM   #1
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I caught a few minutes of that replay, the offense was definitely amazing that year, just needed a defense and a better kicker and we would have been dangerous


Yeah, lost a close one to TB who lost a close one to STL. We were right in the mix. Loved Connell.
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Old 06-12-2019, 07:21 PM   #2
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was watching the 99 Skins - Boys game last night on NFLN, man we had a good offense that yr.



Brad Johnson

Stephen Davis

Larry Centers

Mike Sellers

Michael Westbrooke

Albert Connell

James Thrash

Stephen Alexander



Number 2 ranked offense in the league behind STL.





OL was decent not great but Jansen was a stud.



That was a fun yr being a Skins fan, I was 12 and thought we were SB Bound until TB...



Also we got swept by Dallas that yr, which the 1st game was a fluke comeback by them.


Tre Johnson was damn good too on that line,....
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was watching the 99 Skins - Boys game last night on NFLN, man we had a good offense that yr.

Brad Johnson
Stephen Davis
Larry Centers
Mike Sellers
Michael Westbrooke
Albert Connell
James Thrash
Stephen Alexander

Number 2 ranked offense in the league behind STL.


OL was decent not great but Jansen was a stud.

That was a fun yr being a Skins fan, I was 12 and thought we were SB Bound until TB...

Also we got swept by Dallas that yr, which the 1st game was a fluke comeback by them.
Larry Centers was a beast! He had to be one of the best pass catching backs in the league other than Faulk at that time. I remember so many 3rd and short where he'd pick up the first down on a dump off pass. That offense was doing really good things...and then Snyder stepped in and well...y'all know the rest.
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Gruden says Shaun Dion Hamilton and Fabian Moreau are the two most improved players here.

Glad to hear that SDH has improved from last year. Given the loss of R. Foster, this is good news.
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Gruden says Shaun Dion Hamilton and Fabian Moreau are the two most improved players here.

Glad to hear that SDH has improved from last year. Given the loss of R. Foster, this is good news.
Moreau is going to be good for a while.
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Moreau is going to be good for a while.
If Moreau really is significantly better you have to be happy with the depth. Dunbar is reportedly fully healthy, so to go three deep with reliable outside corners, plus Moreau's ability to slide inside and the depth of DRC and the promise of Jimmy Moreland as another slot guy, the CB position would be looking up.

Moreau and Dunbar are extremely important players for us. If they show out well the defense will undoubtedly be tough. If they don't, we'll have holes offenses can exploit.
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If Moreau really is significantly better you have to be happy with the depth. Dunbar is reportedly fully healthy, so to go three deep with reliable outside corners, plus Moreau's ability to slide inside and the depth of DRC and the promise of Jimmy Moreland as another slot guy, the CB position would be looking up.

Moreau and Dunbar are extremely important players for us. If they show out well the defense will undoubtedly be tough. If they don't, we'll have holes offenses can exploit.
On paper you have to say the Skins are a very deep team, there really is no huge hole besides LG but Wes Martin may fix that.

WR isn't great but we have depth there, just not anyone that really stick out.

Deeper than the Giants for sure and about equal to Dallas.

Once Haskins gets going, he's going to be right behind Wentz as the best in the division.
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On paper you have to say the Skins are a very deep team, there really is no huge hole besides LG but Wes Martin may fix that.

WR isn't great but we have depth there, just not anyone that really stick out.

Deeper than the Giants for sure and about equal to Dallas.

Once Haskins gets going, he's going to be right behind Wentz as the best in the division.
That's really the problem in a nutshell - we have no #1 (or even a #2?) that scares defenses. There are some lottery tickets that could hit - Cam Sims? McLaurin? If they hit then we're in business. But until we see it from them - I'm definitely imagining an offense that doesn't threaten the secondary. Coordinators will be willing to stack the box against Guice and Peterson, and willing to blitz and leave corners on an island to challenge the passing game to win under pressure.

It points to a team with zero margin for error. The defense will have to keep us in games, and whether we win or lose will depend largely on whether we have success running the ball against stacked fronts, and whether we can take care of the ball. McCoy and Keenum are known to turn it over. Haskins is a rookie so we have no idea.

We're looking at a ton of close games, 23-21, 20-17, 24-23, stuff like that. Which points to 9-7 if we stay healthy, and 6-10 if we don't. To talk about 10+ wins or more, we have to see something from this WR group we haven't seen before. The lotto ticket needs to hit.
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Kool aid is flowing. Lol. I hope to hell things turn around this year, but there is a really good chance that by week 5 Ill be thinking “wow we are set at d-line and thats about it”.
But yeah right now if everyone performs and stays healthy we could be a pretty good team. (Common train of thought in June....)
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So the passing game is not great right now...and this is where I'd like to see some originality and planning from Gruden and the offensive staff this offseason by using what they do have. I'd like to see play action quick hits to Quinn, more screen throws to Thompson like they had in 2017, more throws to the TE off play action. They don't have a great #1 or #2....so improvise! And stop trying to make a square peg fit in a round hole...work around the talent you have. Obviously injuries have hurt this in the last 2 years, but last years offense from the beginning was about as vanilla as it gets.
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So the passing game is not great right now...and this is where I'd like to see some originality and planning from Gruden and the offensive staff this offseason by using what they do have. I'd like to see play action quick hits to Quinn, more screen throws to Thompson like they had in 2017, more throws to the TE off play action. They don't have a great #1 or #2....so improvise! And stop trying to make a square peg fit in a round hole...work around the talent you have. Obviously injuries have hurt this in the last 2 years, but last years offense from the beginning was about as vanilla as it gets.
We have absolutely no hope of seeing that.
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Old 07-10-2019, 11:52 AM   #12
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Since Gruden is no longer the play caller, perhaps we'll see some changes in originality. The play calling last year was vanilla AND hugely predictable. If the average Redskins fan noticed that, then the Defensive Coordinators absolutely were ready for it.
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