Trent Williams holding out for new deal

[skinsfaninok]

Yeah I don't see Trent holding out like Bell did, I think he's just looking to see if Bruce will budge.

[Kope]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Yeah I don't see Trent holding out like Bell did, I think he's just looking to see if Bruce will budge.

Dunno. TW is a walk the walk kind of guy, not a lot of BS in him. That is why he has respect in the locker room. Folks like that say what they mean. If the skins want to keep him they need to take his grievance seriously or he will leave.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by Kope

Dunno. TW is a walk the walk kind of guy, not a lot of BS in him. That is why he has respect in the locker room. Folks like that say what they mean. If the skins want to keep him they need to take his grievance seriously or he will leave.

I'm pretty sure a lot of what Trent is reportedly "saying" is coming from his agent.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by Kope

Dunno. TW is a walk the walk kind of guy, not a lot of BS in him. That is why he has respect in the locker room. Folks like that say what they mean. If the skins want to keep him they need to take his grievance seriously or he will leave.

He is under contract for 2 more years. He can't "leave." He ultimately has three choices:
1) Play and receive nearly 30 million dollars over the next two years.
2) Hold out and lose 30 million dollars over the next two years, and become a free agent in 2021 at 33 years old. He will never make back the money he missed.
3) Retire and lose 30 million over the next two years. The redskins hold his right forever, so he can never sign with another team.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

He is under contract for 2 more years. He can't "leave." He ultimately has three choices:
1) Play and receive nearly 30 million dollars over the next two years.
2) Hold out and lose 30 million dollars over the next two years, and become a free agent in 2021 at 33 years old. He will never make back the money he missed.
3) Retire and lose 30 million over the next two years. The redskins hold his right forever, so he can never sign with another team.

So is this a contract situation or a health injury situation ?

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by Giantone

So is this a contract situation or a health injury situation ?

There was only one "report" alleging it was completely about the medical situation with the tumor and he'd vowed to never play for the team again. But this came from a source that is not particularly credible. Within 24 hours, numerous credible sources refuted that report.

That said, we honestly don't know for sure because Trent hasn't spoken publicly, and even if he did, we couldn't trust him because players say all sorts of things when engaged in a holdout.

Based on the limited information we have, my guess is that the tumor on his head gave him a scare (as it would anyone). He realized life is short, he only has a few years left to make significant money, and he needs to make the most of it. He sees Oakland make a lesser player the highest played o-lineman in the league and he looks at the skins situation behind him. Nseke left for Buffalo. Geron Christian is still hurt. Erick Flowers looks horrible. Williams and his agent likely realized he will never have more leverage than he does now, so they decided to use it.

[5superbowls3wins]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

There was only one "report" alleging it was completely about the medical situation with the tumor and he'd vowed to never play for the team again. But this came from a source that is not particularly credible. Within 24 hours, numerous credible sources refuted that report.



That said, we honestly don't know for sure because Trent hasn't spoken publicly, and even if he did, we couldn't trust him because players say all sorts of things when engaged in a holdout.



Based on the limited information we have, my guess is that the tumor on his head gave him a scare (as it would anyone). He realized life is short, he only has a few years left to make significant money, and he needs to make the most of it. He sees Oakland make a lesser player the highest played o-lineman in the league and he looks at the skins situation behind him. Nseke left for Buffalo. Geron Christian is still hurt. Erick Flowers looks horrible. Williams and his agent likely realized he will never have more leverage than he does now, so they decided to use it.

Well, don’t worry. Bruce Allen “knows the truth”. He’s got everything under control.


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[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by 5superbowls3wins

Well, don’t worry. Bruce Allen “knows the truth”. He’s got everything under control.


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When I heard that I thought 1 thing: horseshit.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by 5superbowls3wins

Well, don’t worry. Bruce Allen “knows the truth”. He’s got everything under control.


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He knows more than we do because he talked to Trent directly about it. He also did not refute any of the "reports" out there and refrained from commenting on things. He actually handled that particular exchange very well.

This should be something that the team and Trent's agent work out directly and privately - not through the media.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Kope

Dunno. TW is a walk the walk kind of guy, not a lot of BS in him. That is why he has respect in the locker room. Folks like that say what they mean. If the skins want to keep him they need to take his grievance seriously or he will leave.

I totally agree. Do not seeing him going back on his word, and if they weren’t his words he has had ample time to clear the air.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by punch it in

I totally agree. Do not seeing him going back on his word, and if they weren’t his words he has had ample time to clear the air.

If TW is wanting a new contract, and his agent has put out information to try and help him get a new contract, TW would be a complete idiot to "clear the air." What could he possibly have to gain by saying anything publically?

The thing some here are having a hard time remembering is that all these "reports" are ultimately meaningless. The only thing that matters is what's been said in the private conversations that TW and/or his agent have had with the team.

Neither side has anything to gain by making public statements. And while everyone is getting all worked up about this, we must remember that there is really nothing remarkable about the reports we've heard. Its the same kind of stuff that happens between dozens of players and their teams every year. There is no reason to be overly concerned until we get to maybe week 3 of the preseason.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

If TW is wanting a new contract, and his agent has put out information to try and help him get a new contract, TW would be a complete idiot to "clear the air." What could he possibly have to gain by saying anything publically?



The thing some here are having a hard time remembering is that all these "reports" are ultimately meaningless. The only thing that matters is what's been said in the private conversations that TW and/or his agent have had with the team.



Neither side has anything to gain by making public statements. And while everyone is getting all worked up about this, we must remember that there is really nothing remarkable about the reports we've heard. Its the same kind of stuff that happens between dozens of players and their teams every year. There is no reason to be overly concerned until we get to maybe week 3 of the preseason.

Do you honestly believe he is making things up about our medical doctors and bluffing about leaving for a new contract? That happens all the time? What is the point of that? Players hold out for new contracts all the time without such charades. He is sick and tired of this idiot franchise and he aint never setting foot on a field in the B&G again....

[rickmmrr]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Do you honestly believe he is making things up about our medical doctors and bluffing about leaving for a new contract? That happens all the time? What is the point of that? Players hold out for new contracts all the time without such charades. He is sick and tired of this idiot franchise and he aint never setting foot on a field in the B&G again....

I would believe this if his decision was on principle only. But unfortunately for him that's not the case. His decision involves millions and millions of dollars and the quality of his life now and the future.

So this will be interesting how this pans out.


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[5superbowls3wins]

Originally Posted by rickmmrr

I would believe this if his decision was on principle only. But unfortunately for him that's not the case. His decision involves millions and millions of dollars and the quality of his life now and the future.

So this will be interesting how this pans out.


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Nothing is going to be interesting, as we all know how this is going to end. Washington is going to grossly miss handle the entire situation, and Bruce Allen is going to fuck this up. We will be left with a scrub left tackle by opening day, while our rookie quarterback gets hammered from behind. Then Snyder will promote Allen again....

At some point you really do have to feel bad for Jay Gruden. He really can’t catch a break. He’s already lost foster for the year, and now the best player on the entire team probably


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[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Do you honestly believe he is making things up about our medical doctors and bluffing about leaving for a new contract? That happens all the time? What is the point of that? Players hold out for new contracts all the time without such charades. He is sick and tired of this idiot franchise and he aint never setting foot on a field in the B&G again....

This post encapsulates everything that is wrong with our country today. Whether its sports, politics, social issues, celebrity news, etc. People receive a sliver of information from their preferred clearly biased media source, get all riled up over a distorted version of events, and dig in deep on one side or the other.

You claim Trent is upset with the medical staff, sick of this franchise, thinks its an "idiot" franchise, and is never going to wear a redskins uniform again...

The claims you are making don't from Trent. Some of them come from a report that has since been refuted. Others, you've made up yourself. You are obviously projecting your own issues with the team onto Trent, and its clearly distorting your ability to view to analyze the situation reasonably.