Trent Williams holding out for new deal

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by punch it in

I totally agree. Do not seeing him going back on his word, and if they weren’t his words he has had ample time to clear the air.

If TW is wanting a new contract, and his agent has put out information to try and help him get a new contract, TW would be a complete idiot to "clear the air." What could he possibly have to gain by saying anything publically?

The thing some here are having a hard time remembering is that all these "reports" are ultimately meaningless. The only thing that matters is what's been said in the private conversations that TW and/or his agent have had with the team.

Neither side has anything to gain by making public statements. And while everyone is getting all worked up about this, we must remember that there is really nothing remarkable about the reports we've heard. Its the same kind of stuff that happens between dozens of players and their teams every year. There is no reason to be overly concerned until we get to maybe week 3 of the preseason.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

If TW is wanting a new contract, and his agent has put out information to try and help him get a new contract, TW would be a complete idiot to "clear the air." What could he possibly have to gain by saying anything publically?



The thing some here are having a hard time remembering is that all these "reports" are ultimately meaningless. The only thing that matters is what's been said in the private conversations that TW and/or his agent have had with the team.



Neither side has anything to gain by making public statements. And while everyone is getting all worked up about this, we must remember that there is really nothing remarkable about the reports we've heard. Its the same kind of stuff that happens between dozens of players and their teams every year. There is no reason to be overly concerned until we get to maybe week 3 of the preseason.

Do you honestly believe he is making things up about our medical doctors and bluffing about leaving for a new contract? That happens all the time? What is the point of that? Players hold out for new contracts all the time without such charades. He is sick and tired of this idiot franchise and he aint never setting foot on a field in the B&G again....

[rickmmrr]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Do you honestly believe he is making things up about our medical doctors and bluffing about leaving for a new contract? That happens all the time? What is the point of that? Players hold out for new contracts all the time without such charades. He is sick and tired of this idiot franchise and he aint never setting foot on a field in the B&G again....

I would believe this if his decision was on principle only. But unfortunately for him that's not the case. His decision involves millions and millions of dollars and the quality of his life now and the future.

So this will be interesting how this pans out.


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[5superbowls3wins]

Originally Posted by rickmmrr

I would believe this if his decision was on principle only. But unfortunately for him that's not the case. His decision involves millions and millions of dollars and the quality of his life now and the future.

So this will be interesting how this pans out.


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Nothing is going to be interesting, as we all know how this is going to end. Washington is going to grossly miss handle the entire situation, and Bruce Allen is going to fuck this up. We will be left with a scrub left tackle by opening day, while our rookie quarterback gets hammered from behind. Then Snyder will promote Allen again....

At some point you really do have to feel bad for Jay Gruden. He really can’t catch a break. He’s already lost foster for the year, and now the best player on the entire team probably


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[TheMalcolmConnection]

Originally Posted by 5superbowls3wins

Nothing is going to be interesting, as we all know how this is going to end. Washington is going to grossly miss handle the entire situation, and Bruce Allen is going to fuck this up. We will be left with a scrub left tackle by opening day, while our rookie quarterback gets hammered from behind

At some point you really do have to feel bad for Jay Gruden. He really can’t catch a break. He’s already lost foster for the year, and now the best player on the entire team probably


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[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Do you honestly believe he is making things up about our medical doctors and bluffing about leaving for a new contract? That happens all the time? What is the point of that? Players hold out for new contracts all the time without such charades. He is sick and tired of this idiot franchise and he aint never setting foot on a field in the B&G again....

This post encapsulates everything that is wrong with our country today. Whether its sports, politics, social issues, celebrity news, etc. People receive a sliver of information from their preferred clearly biased media source, get all riled up over a distorted version of events, and dig in deep on one side or the other.

You claim Trent is upset with the medical staff, sick of this franchise, thinks its an "idiot" franchise, and is never going to wear a redskins uniform again...

The claims you are making don't from Trent. Some of them come from a report that has since been refuted. Others, you've made up yourself. You are obviously projecting your own issues with the team onto Trent, and its clearly distorting your ability to view to analyze the situation reasonably.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

This post encapsulates everything that is wrong with our country today. Whether its sports, politics, social issues, celebrity news, etc. People receive a sliver of information from their preferred clearly biased media source, get all riled up over a distorted version of events, and dig in deep on one side or the other.

You claim Trent is upset with the medical staff, sick of this franchise, thinks its an "idiot" franchise, and is never going to wear a redskins uniform again...

The claims you are making don't from Trent. Some of them come from a report that has since been refuted. Others, you've made up yourself. You are obviously projecting your own issues with the team onto Trent, and its clearly distorting your ability to view to analyze the situation reasonably.

Thank you for posting this. A lot of us know the dysfunction of our team, but some people here are too quick to believe everything they read/hear from people whose job is to get fans riled up so they can get ratings/clicks.

When there are contract disputes and holdouts, there are always pieces of misinformation out there leaked by the player's agent and the team. It always happens, regardless of the team.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Thank you for posting this. A lot of us know the dysfunction of our team, but some people here are too quick to believe everything they read/hear from people whose job is to get fans riled up so they can get ratings/clicks.



When there are contract disputes and holdouts, there are always pieces of misinformation out there leaked by the player's agent and the team. It always happens, regardless of the team.

Im simply stating my opinion. Which is that TW had a problem with our medical staff, and is unhappy with his contract, and I believe he will never play for us again. That he is done with this train wreck franchise and wants out. Is that actually out of the realm of possibilities? Im not the one making up conspiracy theories that he is using a medical misdiagnosis for leverage on a contract. Lol.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

This post encapsulates everything that is wrong with our country today. Whether its sports, politics, social issues, celebrity news, etc. People receive a sliver of information from their preferred clearly biased media source, get all riled up over a distorted version of events, and dig in deep on one side or the other.



You claim Trent is upset with the medical staff, sick of this franchise, thinks its an "idiot" franchise, and is never going to wear a redskins uniform again...



The claims you are making don't from Trent. Some of them come from a report that has since been refuted. Others, you've made up yourself. You are obviously projecting your own issues with the team onto Trent, and its clearly distorting your ability to view to analyze the situation reasonably.

Slow your roll man. Lol. Really I doubt my post encapsulates everything wrong with the universe. Haha. I am simply pointing out that players hold out all the time without some over the top stories made up for leverage, which btw is what you said! So it is ok for you to sight his “alleged” words to back up your point but not mine? Ok.
Also, who has refuted anything? Last I checked a teammate had backed it up.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Slow your roll man. Lol. Really I doubt my post encapsulates everything wrong with the universe. Haha. I am simply pointing out that players hold out all the time without some over the top stories made up for leverage, which btw is what you said! So it is ok for you to sight his “alleged” words to back up your point but not mine? Ok.
Also, who has refuted anything? Last I checked a teammate had backed it up.

Your post doesn't reflect everything wrong in the universe, but it does reflect what i see as one of the biggest problems in America as it relates to how people react to information. People quickly form concrete, extreme views based on little and/or biased information and then dig their heels in. Most of the time, their interpretation is based less on an objective analysis of the facts and rather whatever fits in best with their own personal beliefs and biases. Its so reactionary - and its not just in politics, although i think its a way of behaving that started in politics but has expanded to all facets of how we consume information. I made this comment in response to your post, not to single you out as doing something unusual or especially egregious - almost everyone does it, but i just thought it was an interesting, non-political, example of this behavior popping up somewhere i didn't expect it (but should have). So i do apologize if it came off personal. That was not my intent.

anyway, back to the redskins stuff - all the local beat reporters followed up on it with their sources and they said it wasn't true.

Moses made vague comments that indicated he was on TW's side and he was glad TW was taking a stand, but those comments could have applied to anything. You can infer from that whatever you want. But AP is one of TW's best friends on the team (they played together in college and TW pushed the team hard to recruit AP) and AP said that he talked with TW all the time and TW had never said anything like that report.

Further, i'm not siting any "alleged" words to back up one side or the other. I'm only saying that we can't make ANY conclusions at all from those alleged words.

Sure, i have my personal theory, but its just a theory and only based on the facts we know: 1) TW is holding out, 2) TWs contract appears below-market compared to when he signed it, 3) TW had a surgical procedure to remove a benign tumor from his scalp. 4) TW has immense leverage due to the teams other options at LT.

My theory could be write or wrong, but i'm not basing it on anything but the facts that we know. If new facts become available, i'll adjust my take on the situation. But i'm certainly not projecting my own angst with the team onto Trent and declaring that he thinks certain things when the man has not said one word to know what he thinks.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

Your post doesn't reflect everything wrong in the universe, but it does reflect what i see as one of the biggest problems in America as it relates to how people react to information. People quickly form concrete, extreme views based on little and/or biased information and then dig their heels in. Most of the time, their interpretation is based less on an objective analysis of the facts and rather whatever fits in best with their own personal beliefs and biases. Its so reactionary - and its not just in politics, although i think its a way of behaving that started in politics but has expanded to all facets of how we consume information. I made this comment in response to your post, not to single you out as doing something unusual or especially egregious - almost everyone does it, but i just thought it was an interesting, non-political, example of this behavior popping up somewhere i didn't expect it (but should have). So i do apologize if it came off personal. That was not my intent.



anyway, back to the redskins stuff - all the local beat reporters followed up on it with their sources and they said it wasn't true.



Moses made vague comments that indicated he was on TW's side and he was glad TW was taking a stand, but those comments could have applied to anything. You can infer from that whatever you want. But AP is one of TW's best friends on the team (they played together in college and TW pushed the team hard to recruit AP) and AP said that he talked with TW all the time and TW had never said anything like that report.



Further, i'm not siting any "alleged" words to back up one side or the other. I'm only saying that we can't make ANY conclusions at all from those alleged words.



Sure, i have my personal theory, but its just a theory and only based on the facts we know: 1) TW is holding out, 2) TWs contract appears below-market compared to when he signed it, 3) TW had a surgical procedure to remove a benign tumor from his scalp. 4) TW has immense leverage due to the teams other options at LT.



My theory could be write or wrong, but i'm not basing it on anything but the facts that we know. If new facts become available, i'll adjust my take on the situation. But i'm certainly not projecting my own angst with the team onto Trent and declaring that he thinks certain things when the man has not said one word to know what he thinks.

My objective analysis of the situation is I HAVE NO DOUBT THAT BRUCE AND THIS IDIOT FRANCHISE PISSED OFF OUR BEST PLAYER TO THE POINT OF NO RETURN.
I think where we differ is imo Bruce being a numb nutz and this franchise being capable of fucking up a situation are facts and not opinions. Lol
If we were the Pats Id say hey pump the brakes. This cannot be true, But we are the Skins and Im basing my opinion on almost 30 years of track record, not one solitary article or tweet.

[Buffalo Bob]

Originally Posted by punch it in

My objective analysis of the situation is I HAVE NO DOUBT THAT BRUCE AND THIS IDIOT FRANCHISE PISSED OFF OUR BEST PLAYER TO THE POINT OF NO RETURN.
I think where we differ is imo Bruce being a numb nutz and this franchise being capable of fucking up a situation are facts and not opinions. Lol
If we were the Pats Id say hey pump the brakes. This cannot be true, But we are the Skins and Im basing my opinion on almost 30 years of track record, not one solitary article or tweet.

It is pretty easy to err on the side of the Redskins powers to be screwed up, until proven otherwise, since Snyder has been owner.