Trent Williams holding out for new deal

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Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

Your post doesn't reflect everything wrong in the universe, but it does reflect what i see as one of the biggest problems in America as it relates to how people react to information. People quickly form concrete, extreme views based on little and/or biased information and then dig their heels in. Most of the time, their interpretation is based less on an objective analysis of the facts and rather whatever fits in best with their own personal beliefs and biases. Its so reactionary - and its not just in politics, although i think its a way of behaving that started in politics but has expanded to all facets of how we consume information. I made this comment in response to your post, not to single you out as doing something unusual or especially egregious - almost everyone does it, but i just thought it was an interesting, non-political, example of this behavior popping up somewhere i didn't expect it (but should have). So i do apologize if it came off personal. That was not my intent.



anyway, back to the redskins stuff - all the local beat reporters followed up on it with their sources and they said it wasn't true.



Moses made vague comments that indicated he was on TW's side and he was glad TW was taking a stand, but those comments could have applied to anything. You can infer from that whatever you want. But AP is one of TW's best friends on the team (they played together in college and TW pushed the team hard to recruit AP) and AP said that he talked with TW all the time and TW had never said anything like that report.



Further, i'm not siting any "alleged" words to back up one side or the other. I'm only saying that we can't make ANY conclusions at all from those alleged words.



Sure, i have my personal theory, but its just a theory and only based on the facts we know: 1) TW is holding out, 2) TWs contract appears below-market compared to when he signed it, 3) TW had a surgical procedure to remove a benign tumor from his scalp. 4) TW has immense leverage due to the teams other options at LT.



My theory could be write or wrong, but i'm not basing it on anything but the facts that we know. If new facts become available, i'll adjust my take on the situation. But i'm certainly not projecting my own angst with the team onto Trent and declaring that he thinks certain things when the man has not said one word to know what he thinks.

My objective analysis of the situation is I HAVE NO DOUBT THAT BRUCE AND THIS IDIOT FRANCHISE PISSED OFF OUR BEST PLAYER TO THE POINT OF NO RETURN.
I think where we differ is imo Bruce being a numb nutz and this franchise being capable of fucking up a situation are facts and not opinions. Lol
If we were the Pats Id say hey pump the brakes. This cannot be true, But we are the Skins and Im basing my opinion on almost 30 years of track record, not one solitary article or tweet.

[Buffalo Bob]

Originally Posted by punch it in

My objective analysis of the situation is I HAVE NO DOUBT THAT BRUCE AND THIS IDIOT FRANCHISE PISSED OFF OUR BEST PLAYER TO THE POINT OF NO RETURN.
I think where we differ is imo Bruce being a numb nutz and this franchise being capable of fucking up a situation are facts and not opinions. Lol
If we were the Pats Id say hey pump the brakes. This cannot be true, But we are the Skins and Im basing my opinion on almost 30 years of track record, not one solitary article or tweet.

It is pretty easy to err on the side of the Redskins powers to be screwed up, until proven otherwise, since Snyder has been owner.

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Originally Posted by Buffalo Bob

It is pretty easy to err on the side of the Redskins powers to be screwed up, until proven otherwise, since Snyder has been owner.

Sad...but...oh so true

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by Buffalo Bob

It is pretty easy to err on the side of the Redskins powers to be screwed up, until proven otherwise, since Snyder has been owner.

Yes, but there have also been plenty of bullshit stories put out there by some local and national media people who have a negative bias against the team and who live for these exaggerated stories.

I don't have a problem with people always thinking negatively about the team and front office, they (team/FO) have done very little to have any trust from the fanbase.

However, if you come in bitching and whining all the time because you are easily duped into believing some of these speculative stories in the media, well that shit gets old quickly.

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Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Yes, but there have also been plenty of bullshit stories put out there by some local and national media people who have a negative bias against the team and who live for these exaggerated stories.



I don't have a problem with people always thinking negatively about the team and front office, they (team/FO) have done very little to have any trust from the fanbase.



However, if you come in bitching and whining all the time because you are easily duped into believing some of these speculative stories in the media, well that shit gets old quickly.

So does defending Dick Snyder and the prince of darkness every time they get in their own way...

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Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Yes, but there have also been plenty of bullshit stories put out there by some local and national media people who have a negative bias against the team and who live for these exaggerated stories.



I don't have a problem with people always thinking negatively about the team and front office, they (team/FO) have done very little to have any trust from the fanbase.



However, if you come in bitching and whining all the time because you are easily duped into believing some of these speculative stories in the media, well that shit gets old quickly.

Still believe we were duped? Lol. I wont say I told you so...no worries.