Trent Williams holding out for new deal

[sandtrapjack]

Originally Posted by punch it in

A team could have 290 players on the roster, or more, and the chances one of them is a Hall of Fame LT is not great. At all. It is a huge problem.

Not arguing that it is not. But simply pointing out that with or without TW, someone will be lining up at LT on September 8th. To say there is 'literally no one' to play LT is an overstatement.

They may not be as good as TW. But do they have to be as good as Trent to be successful? Do you absolutely need a HOF caliber LT to succeed?

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by sandtrapjack

Not arguing that it is not. But simply pointing out that with or without TW, someone will be lining up at LT on September 8th. To say there is 'literally no one' to play LT is an overstatement.

They may not be as good as TW. But do they have to be as good as Trent to be successful? Do you absolutely need a HOF caliber LT to succeed?

On a team that doesn't have a single star player, yes, you need your HOF LT to have a chance at succeeding. There's no Zeke, there's no Julio Jones, there's no Von Miller, no Luke Keuchley.

You're being kind of dense. Trent makes a major difference to this team, the kind of difference that could take them from 8-8 to 6-10.

[Buffalo Bob]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

On a team that doesn't have a single star player, yes, you need your HOF LT to have a chance at succeeding. There's no Zeke, there's no Julio Jones, there's no Von Miller, no Luke Keuchley.

You're being kind of dense. Trent makes a major difference to this team, the kind of difference that could take them from 8-8 to 6-10.

And keep your rookie, hopefully future franchise QB off the IR list.

[sandtrapjack]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

On a team that doesn't have a single star player, yes, you need your HOF LT to have a chance at succeeding. There's no Zeke, there's no Julio Jones, there's no Von Miller, no Luke Keuchley.

You're being kind of dense. Trent makes a major difference to this team, the kind of difference that could take them from 8-8 to 6-10.

Dense is a bit strong. Please read my statements a little more carefully. I was in agreement that Trent is a difference maker. My point is the team can succeed with a LT that is a notch or two below TWs skillset. I will remind you that the Eagles 'star LT' Jason Peters went on IR after 7 games in 2017 and did not play in the playoffs or Super Bowl that the Eagles won that season.

And we do not know if you have your 'Zeke/Saquon' yet. Guice coming back healthy and he can be a difference maker. I think he will beast it out. I am stoked about the RBs in the NFC East this season.....Saquon, Zeke, Guice.....rock on.

Holy shit. I am the Cowboys fan on this board and I am the only one with faith and hope for the Redskins? I need a drink.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by sandtrapjack

Dense is a bit strong. Please read my statements a little more carefully. I was in agreement that Trent is a difference maker. My point is the team can succeed with a LT that is a notch or two below TWs skillset. I will remind you that the Eagles 'star LT' Jason Peters went on IR after 7 games in 2017 and did not play in the playoffs or Super Bowl that the Eagles won that season.

And we do not know if you have your 'Zeke/Saquon' yet. Guice coming back healthy and he can be a difference maker. I think he will beast it out. I am stoked about the RBs in the NFC East this season.....Saquon, Zeke, Guice.....rock on.

Holy shit. I am the Cowboys fan on this board and I am the only one with faith and hope for the Redskins? I need a drink.

Because you're an idiot. Comparing this Redskins team to the 2017 Eagles is nothing short of asinine. The Eagles may have succeeded without Peters but THIS team will not succeed without Trent.

There's a massive difference in the rosters - they had two very good QBs and we're not sure we even have one. They had receiving threats all over the place (who stayed healthy) in Ertz, Jeffrey, Agholor, Trey Burton, etc, we have one proven one who can't stay healthy (Reed). It's a ridiculous comparison that makes you look like you watch football as often as my grandmother.

[sandtrapjack]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

Because you're an idiot. Comparing this Redskins team to the 2017 Eagles is nothing short of asinine. The Eagles may have succeeded without Peters but THIS team will not succeed without Trent.

There's a massive difference in the rosters - they had two very good QBs and we're not sure we even have one. They had receiving threats all over the place (who stayed healthy) in Ertz, Jeffrey, Agholor, Trey Burton, etc, we have one proven one who can't stay healthy (Reed). It's a ridiculous comparison that makes you look like you watch football as often as my grandmother.

You take thinks so literal and so personal. Ease up. Was not trying to compare. Just making an example. If you are saying that Trent Williams is the cog that makes this team go and if he is not on the field, you might as well mail in the season and get that first pick in the 2020 draft. My point is PROFESSIONAL football teams in the NFL play and win games every week with injuries to key positions such as LT. But you act as if there is no hope if TW is not on the field. I do not agree.

But we'll do it your way.....You have finally convinced me. The Redskins are the dumpster fire you describe.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by sandtrapjack

You take thinks so literal and so personal. Ease up. Was not trying to compare. Just making an example. If you are saying that Trent Williams is the cog that makes this team go and if he is not on the field, you might as well mail in the season and get that first pick in the 2020 draft. My point is PROFESSIONAL football teams in the NFL play and win games every week with injuries to key positions such as LT. But you act as if there is no hope if TW is not on the field. I do not agree.

But we'll do it your way.....You have finally convinced me. The Redskins are the dumpster fire you describe.

Glad we're finally on the same page.

[los panda]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

Because you're an idiot. Comparing this Redskins team to the 2017 Eagles is nothing short of asinine. The Eagles may have succeeded without Peters but THIS team will not succeed without Trent.

There's a massive difference in the rosters - they had two very good QBs and we're not sure we even have one. They had receiving threats all over the place (who stayed healthy) in Ertz, Jeffrey, Agholor, Trey Burton, etc, we have one proven one who can't stay healthy (Reed). It's a ridiculous comparison that makes you look like you watch football as often as my grandmother.

Not cool, Homie. Feel free to express your opinions and make your points but treat others with respect.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by los panda

Not cool, Homie. Feel free to express your opinions and make your points but treat others with respect.

Respect is earned, not given.

[los panda]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

Respect is earned, not given.

Matty must have made a mistake: "- Perhaps the most important guideline of this forum is this, treat your fellow forum members with the utmost respect at all times. Personal attacks will not be tolerated." - http://www.thewarpath.net/misc.php?do=cfrules

Thanks for clearing that up for me, Schneed.

Matty, please fix the Forum Rules to reflect Schneed's revelation here, thanks.
-"at all times."
+"once they've earned it."

[sandtrapjack]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

Respect is earned, not given.

I've got thick skin. Being called an idiot rolls off the sleeve.

But why bring your grandmother into it? Cold.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by los panda

Not cool, Homie. Feel free to express your opinions and make your points but treat others with respect.

The bad news is there is an internet tough guy who thinks he knows everything, and obviously has some sort of deep rooted mommy or daddy issues that need to be ironed out on this board. The good news is alot of other boards have multiple d-bags like that. Yay us.

[DYoungJelly]

Originally Posted by punch it in

The bad news is there is an internet tough guy who thinks he knows everything, and obviously has some sort of deep rooted mommy or daddy issues that need to be ironed out on this board. The good news is alot of other boards have multiple d-bags like that. Yay us.

Great point.

One is too many but way better than two.

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[los panda]

Originally Posted by punch it in

The bad news is there is an internet tough guy who thinks he knows everything, and obviously has some sort of deep rooted mommy or daddy issues that need to be ironed out on this board. The good news is alot of other boards have multiple d-bags like that. Yay us.

Obviously something is going on, and I feel for him, but trashing other people isn't going to help.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

Because you're an idiot. Comparing this Redskins team to the 2017 Eagles is nothing short of asinine. The Eagles may have succeeded without Peters but THIS team will not succeed without Trent.

There's a massive difference in the rosters - they had two very good QBs and we're not sure we even have one. They had receiving threats all over the place (who stayed healthy) in Ertz, Jeffrey, Agholor, Trey Burton, etc, we have one proven one who can't stay healthy (Reed). It's a ridiculous comparison that makes you look like you watch football as often as my grandmother.

HEY! She's a nice lady