Trent Williams holding out for new deal

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by sandtrapjack

Dense is a bit strong. Please read my statements a little more carefully. I was in agreement that Trent is a difference maker. My point is the team can succeed with a LT that is a notch or two below TWs skillset. I will remind you that the Eagles 'star LT' Jason Peters went on IR after 7 games in 2017 and did not play in the playoffs or Super Bowl that the Eagles won that season.

And we do not know if you have your 'Zeke/Saquon' yet. Guice coming back healthy and he can be a difference maker. I think he will beast it out. I am stoked about the RBs in the NFC East this season.....Saquon, Zeke, Guice.....rock on.

Holy shit. I am the Cowboys fan on this board and I am the only one with faith and hope for the Redskins? I need a drink.

Because you're an idiot. Comparing this Redskins team to the 2017 Eagles is nothing short of asinine. The Eagles may have succeeded without Peters but THIS team will not succeed without Trent.

There's a massive difference in the rosters - they had two very good QBs and we're not sure we even have one. They had receiving threats all over the place (who stayed healthy) in Ertz, Jeffrey, Agholor, Trey Burton, etc, we have one proven one who can't stay healthy (Reed). It's a ridiculous comparison that makes you look like you watch football as often as my grandmother.

[sandtrapjack]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

Because you're an idiot. Comparing this Redskins team to the 2017 Eagles is nothing short of asinine. The Eagles may have succeeded without Peters but THIS team will not succeed without Trent.

There's a massive difference in the rosters - they had two very good QBs and we're not sure we even have one. They had receiving threats all over the place (who stayed healthy) in Ertz, Jeffrey, Agholor, Trey Burton, etc, we have one proven one who can't stay healthy (Reed). It's a ridiculous comparison that makes you look like you watch football as often as my grandmother.

You take thinks so literal and so personal. Ease up. Was not trying to compare. Just making an example. If you are saying that Trent Williams is the cog that makes this team go and if he is not on the field, you might as well mail in the season and get that first pick in the 2020 draft. My point is PROFESSIONAL football teams in the NFL play and win games every week with injuries to key positions such as LT. But you act as if there is no hope if TW is not on the field. I do not agree.

But we'll do it your way.....You have finally convinced me. The Redskins are the dumpster fire you describe.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by sandtrapjack

You take thinks so literal and so personal. Ease up. Was not trying to compare. Just making an example. If you are saying that Trent Williams is the cog that makes this team go and if he is not on the field, you might as well mail in the season and get that first pick in the 2020 draft. My point is PROFESSIONAL football teams in the NFL play and win games every week with injuries to key positions such as LT. But you act as if there is no hope if TW is not on the field. I do not agree.

But we'll do it your way.....You have finally convinced me. The Redskins are the dumpster fire you describe.

Glad we're finally on the same page.

[los panda]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

Because you're an idiot. Comparing this Redskins team to the 2017 Eagles is nothing short of asinine. The Eagles may have succeeded without Peters but THIS team will not succeed without Trent.

There's a massive difference in the rosters - they had two very good QBs and we're not sure we even have one. They had receiving threats all over the place (who stayed healthy) in Ertz, Jeffrey, Agholor, Trey Burton, etc, we have one proven one who can't stay healthy (Reed). It's a ridiculous comparison that makes you look like you watch football as often as my grandmother.

Not cool, Homie. Feel free to express your opinions and make your points but treat others with respect.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by los panda

Not cool, Homie. Feel free to express your opinions and make your points but treat others with respect.

Respect is earned, not given.

[los panda]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

Respect is earned, not given.

Matty must have made a mistake: "- Perhaps the most important guideline of this forum is this, treat your fellow forum members with the utmost respect at all times. Personal attacks will not be tolerated." - http://www.thewarpath.net/misc.php?do=cfrules

Thanks for clearing that up for me, Schneed.

Matty, please fix the Forum Rules to reflect Schneed's revelation here, thanks.
-"at all times."
+"once they've earned it."

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by los panda

Matty must have made a mistake: "- Perhaps the most important guideline of this forum is this, treat your fellow forum members with the utmost respect at all times. Personal attacks will not be tolerated." - http://www.thewarpath.net/misc.php?do=cfrules

Thanks for clearing that up for me, Schneed.

Matty, please fix the Forum Rules to reflect Schneed's revelation here, thanks.
-"at all times."
+"once they've earned it."

[sandtrapjack]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

Respect is earned, not given.

I've got thick skin. Being called an idiot rolls off the sleeve.

But why bring your grandmother into it? Cold.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by los panda

Not cool, Homie. Feel free to express your opinions and make your points but treat others with respect.

The bad news is there is an internet tough guy who thinks he knows everything, and obviously has some sort of deep rooted mommy or daddy issues that need to be ironed out on this board. The good news is alot of other boards have multiple d-bags like that. Yay us.

[DYoungJelly]

Originally Posted by punch it in

The bad news is there is an internet tough guy who thinks he knows everything, and obviously has some sort of deep rooted mommy or daddy issues that need to be ironed out on this board. The good news is alot of other boards have multiple d-bags like that. Yay us.

Great point.

One is too many but way better than two.

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[los panda]

Originally Posted by punch it in

The bad news is there is an internet tough guy who thinks he knows everything, and obviously has some sort of deep rooted mommy or daddy issues that need to be ironed out on this board. The good news is alot of other boards have multiple d-bags like that. Yay us.

Obviously something is going on, and I feel for him, but trashing other people isn't going to help.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

Because you're an idiot. Comparing this Redskins team to the 2017 Eagles is nothing short of asinine. The Eagles may have succeeded without Peters but THIS team will not succeed without Trent.

There's a massive difference in the rosters - they had two very good QBs and we're not sure we even have one. They had receiving threats all over the place (who stayed healthy) in Ertz, Jeffrey, Agholor, Trey Burton, etc, we have one proven one who can't stay healthy (Reed). It's a ridiculous comparison that makes you look like you watch football as often as my grandmother.

HEY! She's a nice lady

[DYoungJelly]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

Because you're an idiot. Comparing this Redskins team to the 2017 Eagles is nothing short of asinine. The Eagles may have succeeded without Peters but THIS team will not succeed without Trent.



There's a massive difference in the rosters - they had two very good QBs and we're not sure we even have one. They had receiving threats all over the place (who stayed healthy) in Ertz, Jeffrey, Agholor, Trey Burton, etc, we have one proven one who can't stay healthy (Reed). It's a ridiculous comparison that makes you look like you watch football as often as my grandmother.

Hmm.

Teams with deep, talented rosters are able to deal with injuries better than teams without a deep talented roster.

We don't have deep talent so we can't handle injuries.

So we MUST sign an aging, injury prone LT.

Interesting.

You're really short on details but it's easier to leave them out.

What is the max offer you make in terms of AAV and number of years? What are the limits to your "Must sign" position?

What is your expectation as to the number of games he plays in the next two years?


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[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by DYoungJelly

Hmm.

Teams with deep, talented rosters are able to deal with injuries better than teams without a deep talented roster.

We don't have deep talent so we can't handle injuries.

So we MUST sign an aging, injury prone LT.

Interesting.

You're really short on details but it's easier to leave them out.

What is the max offer you make in terms of AAV and number of years? What are the limits to your "Must sign" position?

What is your expectation as to the number of games he plays in the next two years?


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I didn’t take a ‘must sign’ position. You’re reading something in my posts that’s just not there.

But to answer your question, I think it would be reasonable to add a year to his deal and boost the AAV on those three years in total to match the AAV of the highest paid T in the league right now.

If he’s looking for five years then I’d have to consider what we’d get in a trade. I think our roster needs more and I wouldn’t destroy a disproportionate sum of cap space on a guy that will prevent us from filling out some other spots.

But I don’t anticipate it would come to that. I think they could either stare Trent down and force him to blink, or they could offer him a reasonable increase and I think he’d take it. I don’t believe JLC when he says Trent has vowed not to play for the Skins, because who believes JLC at this point in his career.