Did Gibbs Make the Wrong Call?

[skins052bgr8]

Originally Posted by FirstandTen

Its predictable because its the right call. Eat as much time off the clock try to get a 1st down. If not punt and force the team to go the length of the field with little time on the clock. Its not like weren't able to run on them all game.

I'm not saying we did not run on them all game because we did, I am saying that still mix it up even if we ran the ball all game I can bet we never did that same play 3 times in a row. I don't question Gibbs, just my opinion that we handled that drive different than we did all other drives. Predictable does not get you wins in today's NFL, so please how many times have we compared the 80's and ninties game to today's personnel and game. You can't and I think we learned that last year when we ran the 80's and ninties offense last year and had the lowest production in almost all the NFL. So I don't care if it worked for the Hogs it has not worked for us in 2005 in quite a few games. I would not have questioned the call because 3rd and inches is sometimes hard to get in that situation let alone third and two. We got 6yards then 2 yards then 0 maybe 1 yard on third. We have been successful on a lot of our third down conversions this year I would be curious how many were pass and how many were run. It is all hindsight and would be different if we won, but we did not so it leaves it open for discussion and opinion correct. If the run was so solid I can recall our two point conversion was a pass, I can recall another short third down conversion pass to Cooley, another third down for a touchdown to Sellers a pass. Everyone is hung up on that 25 seconds we ran off the clock and if we threw a int.

[FirstandTen]

Originally Posted by skins052bgr8

I'm not saying we did not run on them all game because we did, I am saying that still mix it up even if we ran the ball all game I can bet we never did that same play 3 times in a row. I don't question Gibbs, just my opinion that we handled that drive different than we did all other drives. Predictable does not get you wins in today's NFL, so please how many times have we compared the 80's and ninties game to today's personnel and game. You can't and I think we learned that last year when we ran the 80's and ninties offense last year and had the lowest production in almost all the NFL. So I don't care if it worked for the Hogs it has not worked for us in 2005 in quite a few games. I would not have questioned the call because 3rd and inches is sometimes hard to get in that situation let alone third and two. We got 6yards then 2 yards then 0 maybe 1 yard on third. We have been successful on a lot of our third down conversions this year I would be curious how many were pass and how many were run. It is all hindsight and would be different if we won, but we did not so it leaves it open for discussion and opinion correct. If the run was so solid I can recall our two point conversion was a pass, I can recall another short third down conversion pass to Cooley, another third down for a touchdown to Sellers a pass. Everyone is hung up on that 25 seconds we ran off the clock and if we threw a int.

Wow ur furious ! I never said anything about 80's or 90's or the Hogs where did that come from? You dusted them off for no reason. Scoring 35pts I think the O is fine. Everyone's not just hung up on the 25 sec's everyone just knows that there were 5 or 6 reasons we lost this game.
Running the ball on third down was guaranteed to keep the clock moving, and a high percentage to get the first down considering how were running the ball. A pass could be incomplete stopping the clock, picked off, or Brunell could get sacked and loose yardage. Oline had to chance to step up and win the game and they did not. That still left our Def with a good chance to stop them.

[skins052bgr8]

Originally Posted by FirstandTen

Wow ur furious ! I never said anything about 80's or 90's or the Hogs where did that come from? You dusted them off for no reason. Scoring 35pts I think the O is fine. Everyone's not just hung up on the 25 sec's everyone just knows that there were 5 or 6 reasons we lost this game.
Running the ball on third down was guaranteed to keep the clock moving, and a high percentage to get the first down considering how were running the ball. A pass could be incomplete stopping the clock, picked off, or Brunell could get sacked and loose yardage. Oline had to chance to step up and win the game and they did not. That still left our Def with a good chance to stop them.

Not furious just responding to an earlier reply about four or five previous that commented 56fanatic check them out there are other opinions than mine or yours. His just happened to be about about Gibbs and three trophies and the Hogs, not attacking you or anybody. I didn't say this was the only reason we lost only commenting on this post that is in reference to Gibbs call on the last drive. There are plenty of other posts questioning turnovers, Alstott, and the other reasons we lost the game, just keeping with the theme. What was Tampa Bay thinking when they threw on that last drive didn't they know it could have been picked off, the clock stopped we drove down the field and scored with time on the clock, or Simms been sacked. These things can happen on any play of the game why alter that because it is the last drive or the second to last drive, etc...

[offiss]

Originally Posted by FirstandTen

Wow ur furious ! I never said anything about 80's or 90's or the Hogs where did that come from? You dusted them off for no reason. Scoring 35pts I think the O is fine. Everyone's not just hung up on the 25 sec's everyone just knows that there were 5 or 6 reasons we lost this game.
Running the ball on third down was guaranteed to keep the clock moving, and a high percentage to get the first down considering how were running the ball. A pass could be incomplete stopping the clock, picked off, or Brunell could get sacked and loose yardage. Oline had to chance to step up and win the game and they did not. That still left our Def with a good chance to stop them.

Well the flow of the game was defiently tilting towards Tampa, they found our week spot down the middle and we weren't stopping them, so the correct call is to get a first down, the key in that situatuation is not to run one minute off the clock, the key is to not allow Tampa an opportunity on offense, without a firstdown Tampa gets the ball back with enough time to drive the length of the field, considering how fast they were carving up our secondary at that point we should have played desperate for a 1st down, not go into a shell worried about a possible TO, or stoppage of the clock.

But I guess we don't learn, Gibbs is bent on proving Portis is the all around back that he keeps telling us he is, Portis is not going to make yards on his own powering the ball, then consider our line and the lack of push and there it is, we can't run the ball in obvious running situations, so why try when the game is on the line? That is the weekest part of our offense and yet at the most crucial point in the game we go to our weekest link to win it, kind of like Mariano Rivera throwing 3 changeup's in a row with the bases loaded up 3 in the 9th, just doesn't make sense.

[44deisel44]

This is a thread that never should have started!!!!! Some1 end this plz!!!!!!!

[MTK]

Originally Posted by 44deisel44

This is a thread that never should have started!!!!! Some1 end this plz!!!!!!!

You mean you don't want to do this anymore?



Or how about this?

[44deisel44]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

You mean you don't want to do this anymore?



Or how about this?

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