Joe Gibbs Sending tapes to NFL

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Originally Posted by irish

I am trying to imagine how making the refs full time nfl employees is going to make the league better (whatever you mean by better). The league is wildly popular, the games are exciting, the TV ratings are good, and the stadiums are full, sounds like a good league to me. The nfl has to focus on keeping that ball rolling.

I think you're taking him a little too literal when he says "make the league better". It seems a little short-sighted to say the league is sucessful so they shouldn't do anything to help it improve the onfield product.

Originally Posted by irish

Also full time refs will blow calls the same as part time refs. They are humans and humans make mistakes.

True but again the League ought to do whatever they can to eliminate bad calls.

Originally Posted by irish

This team will not miss or make the playoffs because of the refs, they will make it because they make plays and score ,more points than the other teams. Had the redskins done that on sunday we would not even be discussing this today.

If we miss the playoffs by a game or maybe Tampa wins a tie breaker then would you say the refs didn't cost us the playoffs? We "lost" by 1 point and we were conservatively screwed by 9 points. The Skins did what they had to do to win the game. They didn't play great and didn't finish the Bucs off but they did enough to win by at at least 8 points and the refs were able to affect the score by at least 9 points against us. They have at least as much culpability in the loss as any Redskins does.

[#56fanatic]

Originally Posted by JWsleep

There ought to be a separate replay official in a dark booth up in the stadium, like they do for Hockey. My guess is having the ref try to do it himself under that "hood" leads to lots of blown calls and pressure to get it done quickly.

And I agree--they ought to pay the friggin refs and make them work all offseason to hone there skills. Why not? Are you telling me the NFL doesn't have the money to do so???

I actually like the idea of making the replay sort of similar to what college football has. The refs stand there with the head set on and wait for the booth up stairs to say good or no good. But we should still keep it the same in regards to the coaches being able to challenge the plays. That way, it keeps the refs out of the decision making regarding reviews. They are emotionally (even though they are not suppose to be) in the game. They are running around and no matter what the replay shows, they feel obligated at times to keep the play as it was originally called.

[RedskinRat]

If we can't have Pro Refs then can we at least include some technology? It really isn't that much of a task to put RFID in the balls and use a hopped up GPS to track it.

No more questionable spots of the ball, no more goal line debates.

[TheMalcolmConnection]

I don't know about full-time refs, but I'd be completely in favor of refs getting sizeable fines for blowing a call.

[irish]

Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

I don't know about full-time refs, but I'd be completely in favor of refs getting sizeable fines for blowing a call.

If that policy was adopted, refs would never make any calls for fear of making a mistake and being fined. Thats the problem with the whole idea of review, it creates uncertainty in the refs minds and they either dont make calls for fear of being shown to be wrong or they dont over-rule incorrect calls for fear of taking the ruling authority off the field. Like I said, review needs to be scrapped. Let the refs make their on field judgements (right or wrong) and move on.

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Originally Posted by irish

If that policy was adopted, refs would never make any calls for fear of making a mistake and being fined. Thats the problem with the whole idea of review, it creates uncertainty in the refs minds and they either dont make calls for fear of being shown to be wrong or they dont over-rule incorrect calls for fear of taking the ruling authority off the field. Like I said, review needs to be scrapped. Let the refs make their on field judgements (right or wrong) and move on.

100% right. The refs can't be making decisions based on anything but what happens in front of their eyes. Emotion needs to be removed as mucha s possible. I don't think the current system allows for emotion to be removed as fully as it could be either though. You might right about scrapping the whole deal if they can't get it right soon.