Guice injured again

[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by jamf

Brian Mitchell pretty much said the same thing as Warthog, he blamed Gruden for the injury saying Guice protecting the bad leg put too much stress on the good leg.

As is every year, this was the teams last preseason game, DG will get better. Gruden would be 0-6 on opening games if they played anyone other than the horrible cardinals last year.

I love BMitch, but that's BS.

Guice had 10 carries, one less than he had in the third preseason game. He was cleared to play, played sparingly, and got injured. I'll never understand blaming the head coach for injuries. It's unfortunate, but all signs point to this guy being constructed with blown glass.

[Kope]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

I love BMitch, but that's BS.

Guice had 10 carries, one less than he had in the third preseason game. He was cleared to play, played sparingly, and got injured. I'll never understand blaming the head coach for injuries. It's unfortunate, but all signs point to this guy being constructed with blown glass.

This.

You can what if everything. Guice or AP starting based on performance is one thing. Second guessing about injuries is pointless. People get hurt doing celebrations, in warm ups, head butting a stadium wall, or even crossing the street.

Alot of things fall on JG shoulders. This isnt one of them.

[Warthog]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

I love BMitch, but that's BS.



Guice had 10 carries, one less than he had in the third preseason game. He was cleared to play, played sparingly, and got injured. I'll never understand blaming the head coach for injuries. It's unfortunate, but all signs point to this guy being constructed with blown glass.

I know Guice only had 10 carries. But others, with much more football knowledge than me, have written that Guice just didn’t look to be at 100% for Philly and pushed it because it was his first NFL game and he was the starter.

All I’m saying is that if AP was there to take a few carries this might not have happened. Somehow we went from 60%/40% talk in TC/PS for the Guice/Peterson mix to 100% in the first game of his NFL career and after a major injury last year. WHY? Did Guice suddenly look so awesome in the preseason games that Gruden could just dump AP?

For a team with an excessive amount of injuries, two seasons in a row, perhaps a conservative approach to using players with injury history was the best path.

Did Jordan Reed really need to play in the preseason? The Eagles played NONE of their best players even a single play in the PS.

Could Guice have used a little help in his first game after an ACL last year?

You can make a case that every injury is just bad luck or an “act of God”. Perhaps. Or perhaps with a little extra care they may have had less of a Chance of happening.


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[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by Warthog

Did Jordan Reed really need to play in the preseason? The Eagles played NONE of their best players even a single play in the PS.

Yes, Reed missed all of the preseason last year, and under produced throughout the season when he was healthy. Reed got hit helmet-to-helmet and got a concussion, that's not anyone's fault but the guy that hit him (who should have been ejected from that game)

Originally Posted by Warthog

Could Guice have used a little help in his first game after an ACL last year?

Perhaps, but he was cleared and played almost as many snaps as he did during the preseason.

[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by Warthog

I know Guice only had 10 carries. But others, with much more football knowledge than me, have written that Guice just didn’t look to be at 100% for Philly and pushed it because it was his first NFL game and he was the starter.

All I’m saying is that if AP was there to take a few carries this might not have happened. Somehow we went from 60%/40% talk in TC/PS for the Guice/Peterson mix to 100% in the first game of his NFL career and after a major injury last year. WHY? Did Guice suddenly look so awesome in the preseason games that Gruden could just dump AP?

For a team with an excessive amount of injuries, two seasons in a row, perhaps a conservative approach to using players with injury history was the best path.

Did Jordan Reed really need to play in the preseason? The Eagles played NONE of their best players even a single play in the PS.

Could Guice have used a little help in his first game after an ACL last year?

You can make a case that every injury is just bad luck or an “act of God”. Perhaps. Or perhaps with a little extra care they may have had less of a Chance of happening.


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If they didn't think Guice was a 100%, there would have been a different plan. If he let on as though he was 100% and he wasn't, that's completely on him. He looked fine to me though, there just wasn't anywhere for him to run.

As far as playing in the preseason, yes Jordan Reed probably should have played because he needed the reps. Everyone has their own school of thought on how much you should play in the preseason. Tom Brady played. The Super Bowl MVP played in the 4th preseason game. I think it just boils down to what work you think your guys need to be prepared for the season.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

I love BMitch, but that's BS.

Guice had 10 carries, one less than he had in the third preseason game. He was cleared to play, played sparingly, and got injured. I'll never understand blaming the head coach for injuries. It's unfortunate, but all signs point to this guy being constructed with blown glass.

Isn't BMitch the same person that not long ago said that he thinks players are soft nowadays and don't play through injuries? I don't get it.

If Guice was cleared to play and played an entire half of the 3rd preseason game without any issues, then why are people blaming the coach for Guice's injury?

Gruden's stupidity comes from the way he called the game and abandoning the run. Portis and Cooley had a good take on this on Cooley's podcast, how both AP and Guice are down hill runners and Jay is not using them this way.