Week 2 Loss - Post Thoughts Here

[SFREDSKIN]

One thing I liked today is the way Steve Sims was used. That kid some high upside. Here’s a really good scouting breakdown on him:

https://uploads-ssl.webflow.com/5988...Steven_PDF.pdf

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by calia

Rough patch, Punch. At least all but the Redskins might improve.

Honestly, we are giving up > 30 points and > 475 yards a game. I know the eagles and cowboys have talent, but that’s absurd. If Manusky isn’t gone soon, I’ll be pissed. I realize injuries to Allen, Dunbar, and Moreau aren’t helping, but this group is seriously underperforming.

I’d elevate Tomsula to DC. He’s at least passionate and will motivate guys. Hard to imagine anyone else decent being available to step in.


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I just don’t think BA and DS care that much about winning. They r making alot of money. I agree about Tomsula but I do not even think the brass gives a crap anymore.

[rocnrik]

Looking at schedule .. no way Gruden and staff wins more than 4 games ..we beat giants , dolphins and maybe two more but at thus point whatever it takes for major changes I’m all in.. including Bruce Allen gone, I never thought I would be this pessimistic about skins but I am!

[DynamiteRave]

Originally Posted by rocnrik

Looking at schedule .. no way Gruden and staff wins more than 4 games ..we beat giants , dolphins and maybe two more but at thus point whatever it takes for major changes I’m all in.. including Bruce Allen gone, I never thought I would be this pessimistic about skins but I am!

I actually don’t mind not winning. Maybe it’ll inspire Snyder to clean house, we shoulda done that this off season but maybe a complete collapse will really drive the point home.


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[punch it in]

Manusky has been fired everywhere he ever coached. How these same dingbats keep landing jobs is mind numbing. I swear to God I don’t think there is any real vetting done before these guys sign their 7 figure offer sheets. Its just “yeah i used to coach with his brother in the college ranks and we both like the same television shows” - boom. Hired.

[Redskins247]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Manusky has been fired everywhere he ever coached. How these same dingbats keep landing jobs is mind numbing. I swear to God I don’t think there is any real vetting done before these guys sign their 7 figure offer sheets. Its just “yeah i used to coach with his brother in the college ranks and we both like the same television shows” - boom. Hired.

Good proven coaches are not coming here folks, they know the deal with Snyder and Allen. We'll have to get up and comers at best. Our only hope going forward is Allen is fired, and Snyder hires a respected GM or candidate and turns the keys over to him...and I just don't see that happening.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by Redskins247

Good proven coaches are not coming here folks, they know the deal with Snyder and Allen. We'll have to get up and comers at best. Our only hope going forward is Allen is fired, and Snyder hires a respected GM or candidate and turns the keys over to him...and I just don't see that happening.

Even when they do, we go the other way...we looked past Wade Phillips for Barry, Phillips would def had come here to coach with his son at the time. It came down to Mike Pettine and Manusky after Barry was fired, we chose the idiot and Pettine has the Green Bay Defense playing like a top 5 in the league.

[PorkSkins]

Originally Posted by Redskins247

Good proven coaches are not coming here folks, they know the deal with Snyder and Allen. We'll have to get up and comers at best.

^^^^
This!

[skinsfaninok]

Jay is begging to get fired, he will get his wish and he'll end up in vegas w his bro

[Warthog]

I like the idea of a new DC from within - like Tomsula RIGHT NOW. Only when properly coached can we see who’s really playing well and who needs to be dumped next year. The poor coaching is masking who is playing well or not. Except with obvious losers like Van Norman or Moses.

The Redskins need to seriously look at EVERY SINGLE free agent and fire all but the very best at the end of the year. We’ll have cap dead space for a year or two but in a year or two we’ll have money to get talent. Time for a YOUTH MOVEMENT.

We are in a two- year REBUILDING WINDOW. Gruden’s last year and the NEW HC and staff first year. Total housecleaning of old guys, expensive guys based on this and next years performance.

We should be benching guys like Richardson and replacing him with Steve Sims or Robert Davis or Harmon to see who can fill his shoes NOW OR DO BETTER, when he is gone next year.

It is time to bring in new rookies and get them playing time, even if they make mistakes. I mean someone on the team or on waivers has got to be better than Moses - he just sucks!


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[skinsfan69]

I think apathy has set in for me. I watched the game today and did not say one word the entire time. No yelling, no cursing. I turned it off before it ended to watch Baltimore/ Cards.

As far as the game, Case is really hanging in there considering the circumstances. But he is who he is and we will never win with him. But I feel like if they put Haskins in then the offense, which is barely holding it's head above water, may go in the tank with more sacks, fumbles and ints. And with the way the defense is playing I don't think anyone wants that. It would be unbearable. I would get Haskins mop up duty for now.

The D is pitiful. Move on from Manusky. He can't scheme or motivate. Once and if we get healthy in the secondary I'd sit Norman down. He's slow and can't even cover 50 year old Witten. Go with these young guys and see what you got. Stop messing around with guys like DRC. Whomever decided to sign him should be out of the NFL. But basically their o-line broke our will. The better team clearly was Dallas.

[Buffalo Bob]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

I think apathy has set in for me. I watched the game today and did not say one word the entire time. No yelling, no cursing..

I made up for it by yelling and cussing enough for both of us. Probably good I live over 1/4 mile from the closest neighbor. I seemed to get extra pissed off yesterday. What happened to that top 10 defense we were supposed to have, especially the D-line?

[SFREDSKIN]

Ionaddis has been missing in action for 2 weeks now.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

Ionaddis has been missing in action for 2 weeks now.

Sweat too, he's been awful in Pass rush

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Sweat too, he's been awful in Pass rush

Back to back week on versus best Tackle tandems in the league will do that