How Long Will Jay Gruden Last This Season as Head Coach?

[Warthog]

A lot of Jay’s offensive yardage and TD’s have come in garbage time. Both opposing teams were far enough ahead to give Jay and Case a free scoring drive at the end. Yesterday the Cowboys gave up TWO garbage time drives and scores.

Gruden may love Case but Keenum has missed two wide open TD passes which might have reshaped the games.

Jay will go back next year as the good OC he was before he came here. Not a very good HC, who has been further handicapped with a poor GM and owner.


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[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by Warthog

A lot of Jay’s offensive yardage and TD’s have come in garbage time. Both opposing teams were far enough ahead to give Jay and Case a free scoring drive at the end. Yesterday the Cowboys gave up TWO garbage time drives and scores.

Gruden may love Case but Keenum has missed two wide open TD passes which might have reshaped the games.

Jay will go back next year as the good OC he was before he came here. Not a very good HC, who has been further handicapped with a poor GM and owner.


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I would have agreed with you last week, but with the shitty way our defense played this week, I doubt it would have mattered.

The offense is overachieving, even with a bad running game and a terrible right side of the line.

[Warthog]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

I would have agreed with you last week, but with the shitty way our defense played this week, I doubt it would have mattered.



The offense is overachieving, even with a bad running game and a terrible right side of the line.

I have to disagree. 18 yds from your main RB in game 1 and 25 yds from AP in game 2 is not overachieving. Keenum is looking better because they’re giving him at least one free garbage time drive and TD per game or half. That’s 75 yds and a TD added onto his numbers. Or yesterday it was 150-odd yds and two TD. Take that off and he doesn’t look so hot.

You are what your record says you are. We are going to be a 5-6 win team and ppl are going to be still raving about how Case has these great stats because they give him a freebie to waste time and end the game. Case can’t win games - just free yardage when it doesn’t matter.

Play Haskins and work toward a QB who can actually WIN GAMES.



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[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by Warthog

I have to disagree. 18 yds from your main RB in game 1 and 25 yds from AP in game 2 is not overachieving. Keenum is looking better because they’re giving him at least one free garbage time drive and TD per game or half. That’s 75 yds and a TD added onto his numbers. Or yesterday it was 150-odd yds and two TD. Take that off and he doesn’t look so hot.

You are what your record says you are. We are going to be a 5-6 win team and ppl are going to be still raving about how Case has these great stats because they give him a freebie to waste time and end the game. Case can’t win games - just free yardage when it doesn’t matter.

Play Haskins and work toward a QB who can actually WIN GAMES.



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Okay, let's look at the garbage stats:

Philly game:
- last drive 11/16 75 yds 1td
- stats without last drive: 19/28, 305 yds, 2 tds, 0 int

Cowpukes game:
- last drive 8/10 75 yds 1 td, 0 int
- stats without last drive: 18/27 146 yds, 1 td, 0 int

The thing is, Case and the passing game were not supposed to even get those garbage-time-less stats. Everyone (even Gruden) expected this team to run the ball and have a strong defense, and have Case stink up the joint and our receiver do nothing.

If we had a better run game and a better (right side) of the o-line, I'd be fine with putting in Haskins. Kid has a lot of talent, but unless he can somehow make the defense play better, I don't see the point in putting him yet.

[PorkSkins]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Okay, let's look at the garbage stats:

Philly game:
- last drive 11/16 75 yds 1td
- stats without last drive: 19/28, 305 yds, 2 tds, 0 int

Cowpukes game:
- last drive 8/10 75 yds 1 td, 0 int
- stats without last drive: 18/27 146 yds, 1 td, 0 int

The thing is, Case and the passing game were not supposed to even get those garbage-time-less stats. Everyone (even Gruden) expected this team to run the ball and have a strong defense, and have Case stink up the joint and our receiver do nothing.

If we had a better run game and a better (right side) of the o-line, I'd be fine with putting in Haskins. Kid has a lot of talent, but unless he can somehow make the defense play better, I don't see the point in putting him yet.

I agree with your post, Ruhskins.

If our offensive line would stop with the penalties and better block in the running, along with the defense being halfway decent then some would be singing a different tune.

Keenum has missed on some plays, no doubt. But he's down the list of issues. This team is simply poorly-coached, IMO.