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Old 09-21-2019, 08:43 AM   #1
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Re: Trent Williams holding out for new deal

Here’s a couple truths the team needs to face:

1. For whatever reason TW will never play here again. We need to trade him for at least a first to get his replacement.

2. Scherff has broken off negotiations and many predict he will walk after this season. We will need to draft for HIS replacement in this draft. I’m sure he wants more money, at a winning organization that doesn’’r have our constant chaos.

The 2020 draft is heavy with OT and that’s where we will draft. If we can get a 1st for TW it will help the rebuilding of the OL.


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Here’s a couple truths the team needs to face:

1. For whatever reason TW will never play here again. We need to trade him for at least a first to get his replacement.

2. Scherff has broken off negotiations and many predict he will walk after this season. We will need to draft for HIS replacement in this draft. I’m sure he wants more money, at a winning organization that doesn’’r have our constant chaos.

The 2020 draft is heavy with OT and that’s where we will draft. If we can get a 1st for TW it will help the rebuilding of the OL.


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At what point do we find CONTINUITY? Has anyone pondered where’d the Redskins be today if they had just paid Cousins early on, and kept DeSean and Garçon around in Gruden’s system? Years later, we’re all left with this mess, no continuity, or stability.



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At what point do we find CONTINUITY? Has anyone pondered where’d the Redskins be today if they had just paid Cousins early on, and kept DeSean and Garçon around in Gruden’s system? Years later, we’re all left with this mess, no continuity, or stability.



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Would not have mattered one lick. They both would have been injured, KC would have forced a trade, and our DCoordinator still would not know how to win a 2nd half or stop an opposing team on third downs.

Crying over Garcon/DJax/KC is effectively griping about being fat and lethargic while still eating 2 mcdonalds meals and drinking 3 large sugar loaded cokes every day.



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At what point do we find CONTINUITY? Has anyone pondered where’d the Redskins be today if they had just paid Cousins early on, and kept DeSean and Garçon around in Gruden’s system? Years later, we’re all left with this mess, no continuity, or stability.



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It would have been flat out dumb to keep both Garcon and Jackson at 10 million plus. Jackson has too many issues staying healthy, there's always something wrong with him. Not a good investment paying at wr 10 million plus on the other side of 30. Garcon got hurt the following year and is out of the league.
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At what point do we find CONTINUITY? Has anyone pondered where’d the Redskins be today if they had just paid Cousins early on, and kept DeSean and Garçon around in Gruden’s system? Years later, we’re all left with this mess, no continuity, or stability.



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Your CONTINUITY argument is spot on. When TW is gone, Kerrigan will be the only player who has more than 7 years on this team. NO ONE wants to stay here - the quality players and coaches go to more stable and better run franchises. The only players who are interested in the Redskins are those FA that want to CASH IN NOW

Until Snyder brings in a HC or GM and really gives them the reins to truly make the team a winner - nothing will change. Dan Snyder wants to personally direct the team using his front man Bruce Allen to run interference and take the blame. Unfortunately, neither Snyder or Allen understands how to win in the NFL.

As long as the team win 5,6,7 games, Snyder can rationalize that the team is just a key player or another year’s draft away from moving to the next level. The team’s personnel decisions are often short-sighted. Win NOW, instead of rebuilding and cleaning house in off seasons. This keeps the team universally mediocre but never really bad.

Perhaps the team needs a really, really BAD season to get Snyder to wake up and give up controls to a true NFL professional. This might be the year.




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Do the 49ers have much draft capital? Didn't they trade their 2nd to the Chiefs? I can't see them giving up a 1st for TW unless they are desperate, given his age. If they give up a1st for Ramsey (worth it) then they have little to offer us except 2021 picks, which wouldn't itself be so bad.

Given BA's stance I find it hard to believe he'll trade TW for peanuts, and I can't see who gives up anything better than a 2nd and 3rd. Maybe with a decent player thrown in, that would be palatable.
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Your CONTINUITY argument is spot on. When TW is gone, Kerrigan will be the only player who has more than 7 years on this team. NO ONE wants to stay here - the quality players and coaches go to more stable and better run franchises. The only players who are interested in the Redskins are those FA that want to CASH IN NOW

Until Snyder brings in a HC or GM and really gives them the reins to truly make the team a winner - nothing will change. Dan Snyder wants to personally direct the team using his front man Bruce Allen to run interference and take the blame. Unfortunately, neither Snyder or Allen understands how to win in the NFL.

As long as the team win 5,6,7 games, Snyder can rationalize that the team is just a key player or another year’s draft away from moving to the next level. The team’s personnel decisions are often short-sighted. Win NOW, instead of rebuilding and cleaning house in off seasons. This keeps the team universally mediocre but never really bad.

Perhaps the team needs a really, really BAD season to get Snyder to wake up and give up controls to a true NFL professional. This might be the year.




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Exactly. Tired of starting over every 4-5 years. New coaches, new system, new QB, yawn, yawn, yawn. The Skins have been “rebuilding” for 20 years. Everyone is always begging for changes. I’ve done the same thing.

At what point do we see continuity with a head coach, a system and a quarterback. Why do you think Bellecheck and Brady have had so much success?


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