PREDICT GAME 3 AGAINST “Da Bears”

[Meks]

Originally Posted by SunnySide

If Keenum was playing as bad as Eli, then yes I think you can start to entertain the idea of starting Haskins.

Eli - 62.9% comp %, 556 yds, 2 tds 2 ints, 37.9 QBR

Case - 69.1%, 601 yds, 5 tds 0 ints, 71 QBR

2 sacks = perhaps Keenums 2nd best stat after 0 ints.
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Jay isnt that bad. For the utter crap he has to work with on the O, he is making lemonade out of lemons. When he had teh weapons (kirk, d jax, garcon, reed) we had a top 5 passing offense.

Jay feels like Kyle Shannahan around here .. a talented offensive mind being blamed for things outside of his control.

I am fairly certain Jay had 0 say in his D coordinators, trading for Alex Smith, and Callahan has major say in the run game weekly gameplans.

I feel like Jay only gets 100% control over the passing game .. and the passing game is our only strength right now and he is doing it with limited resources and a bare cupboard.

whats jays record tho? no thanks. he and manusky can gtfo

[SunnySide]

Originally Posted by Meks

whats jays record tho? no thanks. he and manusky can gtfo

What was Mike and Kyles record here? What was Belichick's record in Cleveland? Or McVays here?

Jay is good offensive coach imo, he can scheme and I give him credit for working with probably a bottom 3 surrounding cast and players.

We credit Terry Mclaurin for looking good in 2 games but give Jay no credit for that. What Jay has done the past 2 weeks w Case and this roster is admirable imo but it seems like we cant compartamentalize the different parts to this whole. Record sucks so every part of the whole sucks. Seems broad brush to me.

The passing game is the one thing that has been doing well so far and that is the one thing Jay truly has control over .. yet he sucks and we want o replace Case w a rookie bc the Giants repalced eli w Jones.

I like Kyle and Mike Shannahan. But much like their tenure here .. this place is rotten and toxic and its time for jay to move on as well. Not because he is a bad coach, he would be a great OC but perhaps not a HC, but bc this place is cancerous.

Can we at least agree that Jay is a good pass offense coach?

Quakes - I never said he was playing like Peyton 2013, I said he is playing better than Eli 2019.

[jamf]

Originally Posted by SunnySide

We credit Terry Mclaurin for looking good in 2 games but give Jay no credit for that.

Are you giving Jay "credit" for Terrell Pryor and Josh Doctsons breakout seasons?

[SunnySide]

Originally Posted by jamf

Are you giving Jay "credit" for Terrell Pryor and Josh Doctsons breakout seasons?

I give Jay credit for canning that Pryor experiment 2 games into the season.

Are we blaming Jay for things he had 0 control over like signing Pryor or drafting Doctson?

Im not even a huge Jay fan but the comments around here make it seem like people think jay has total control over the roster or defense. He has ZERO control over the roster decisions and defense or who is coaching defense.

I feel bad for Jay just like I felt bad for Mike and Kyle.