Why moving on from Bruce Allen this year is pivotal to the future of the franchise.

[metalskins]

I've never understood the concept of hiring all of the assistance coaches and coordinators and then hiring a head coach. In every other franchise, the head coach always picks his coaching staff. Never understood why Bruce has done it like that - but it doesn't work.

Allen had better be gone by the end of this season.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by metalskins

I've never understood the concept of hiring all of the assistance coaches and coordinators and then hiring a head coach. In every other franchise, the head coach always picks his coaching staff. Never understood why Bruce has done it like that - but it doesn't work.

Allen had better be gone by the end of this season.

It's pretty easy to understand, Bruce is a lunatic. I want to believe Gruden got to pick his own coaches but we can't forget Zorn was originally hired to be offensive coordinator before a HC was hired, and then after we threw the shit fit about Hassel he was promoted to HC.

If Gruden wasn't allowed to create his own hierarchy with his own hand picked assistants he was doomed from the start.

[BaltimoreSkins]

Originally Posted by mooby

It's pretty easy to understand, Bruce is a lunatic. I want to believe Gruden got to pick his own coaches but we can't forget Zorn was originally hired to be offensive coordinator before a HC was hired, and then after we threw the shit fit about Hassel he was promoted to HC.

If Gruden wasn't allowed to create his own hierarchy with his own hand picked assistants he was doomed from the start.

Regardless BA goes out of his way to undermine the coaches. He did it with Shanahan and he is doing it with Jay to scapegoat him. We can fire Jay and that will fix our Jay problem but it doesn’t fix the problem with the team.

[DYoungJelly]

Originally Posted by BaltimoreSkins

Regardless BA goes out of his way to undermine the coaches. He did it with Shanahan and he is doing it with Jay to scapegoat him. We can fire Jay and that will fix our Jay problem but it doesn’t fix the problem with the team.

I don't think Jay is a good coach. But I think he would have had way more success than he has had here, with another competent organization.

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[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by BaltimoreSkins

Regardless BA goes out of his way to undermine the coaches. He did it with Shanahan and he is doing it with Jay to scapegoat him. We can fire Jay and that will fix our Jay problem but it doesn’t fix the problem with the team.

And this is what Vinny did too which is why even changing BA isn't much of a chance to see success. The person hiring the next Bruce or Vinny will still look for the same criteria.

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[DYoungJelly]

Originally Posted by mooby

It's pretty easy to understand, Bruce is a lunatic. I want to believe Gruden got to pick his own coaches but we can't forget Zorn was originally hired to be offensive coordinator before a HC was hired, and then after we threw the shit fit about Hassel he was promoted to HC.



If Gruden wasn't allowed to create his own hierarchy with his own hand picked assistants he was doomed from the start.

It has never been reported by a "journalist" that the Callahan hire was an arranged marriage with Jay.

But, Finlay, Sheehan, and Phillips from the Richmond times dispatch have talked about it on podcasts since Callahan's hire.

And it's a total Bruce move. Dallas has a good run game, let's hire yet another Dallas Cowboy, whether he fits here or not.

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[SolidSnake84]

Originally Posted by metalskins

I've never understood the concept of hiring all of the assistance coaches and coordinators and then hiring a head coach. In every other franchise, the head coach always picks his coaching staff. Never understood why Bruce has done it like that - but it doesn't work.

Allen had better be gone by the end of this season.

I really think we have no reason to believe that Allen will be fired, other than wanting that as fans. People in the media and those "in the know" has said over and over again that Bruce is here as long as he wants to be. Our best case scenario is that Allen retires on his own soon. I do agree, Bruce has to go, but to think that Snyder fires him, i believe is very misguided thinking.

I think what is the most likely scenario, is that Dan and Bruce fire Jay and all of his assistants, and then reload their way, picking all of the staff and coordinators, and THEN, picking their head coach.

[BaltimoreSkins]

Agree. we have all seen his poor play calling and practices to know he is not a good coach

[KI Skins Fan]

You guys are in Fantasy Land if you think Bruce Allen is going anywhere. I think Bruce must be perfect for what Snyder wants or he would already be gone.

Some business owners thrive on sitting above the fray and enjoying watching their underlings fight it out. If you're untouchable, constant turmoil, political infighting, back-stabbing, lies, and betrayals can make for an amusing show. I suspect that Snyder get off on that stuff - not to mention all the flattery and boot-licking that gos along with it. And who is better at all that nonsense than Allen? Naw, he stays.

Bruce Allen is like the gladiator who kills so many opponents that he is eventually awarded his freedom by the emperor.

Also, no matter if the team wins or not or is well-managed or not the Franchise is still worth billions to Snyder if he decides to sell it to another social climber who is looking to join the business elite of NFL owners. He can't screw it up! He's golden, so why should he care about your silly-ass problems?

[Chico23231]

Yeah, I don’t know...I think Bruce firing is def on the table. I think it’s not really the performance of team, but the decline in the dc market and apathy he sees in the fans...I think this is most concerning thing to Dan.

[SolidSnake84]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Yeah, I don’t know...I think Bruce firing is def on the table. I think it’s not really the performance of team, but the decline in the dc market and apathy he sees in the fans...I think this is most concerning thing to Dan.

What makes you feel that Dan is even concerned about it? I'm not being a smartass. When Dan looks out there, he sees people going to the games, he sees merchandise being sold, etc... He doesn't strike me as the kind of individual who would notice things such as declining attendance, etc.. Even Michael Lombardi during his interview was asked like two different times if Dan Snyder was stupid as a human being, and Michael didn't answer it. He didn't defend him. Dan wouldn't notice something like what we are talking about until he one day goes out to a 25% full stadium.

[Bridgewater77]

Agreed!

Originally Posted by Chico23231

We are at another poignant moment in the Snyder owned Skins as we sink to 0-3 with more drama than most franchises with the only remaining holdout situation and a first round QB sitting on the bench while other rookie QB flourish on the field.

Typical Skins in a Snyder-Bruce Allen era.

Snyder isn’t going anywhere but could it be time for Allen to be fired? It’s the perfect time for Bruce to go as we are actually in a good position to reset the franchise.

1. The coaching staff is about to be turned over, A new GM will get to influence immediately the direction of field strategy and scheme. A young Offensive mind, a young Defensive mind, a college level coach, an experienced coordinator, a previous coach retread...this is the most important decision coming this offseason. Gruden was a Tampa-safe pick Bruce special which failed.

2. We have young talent at WR, QB, D-line, LB, and other pockets all over the field. Experienced kickers on special teams. The team’s talent isn’t bad and the depth is decent.

3. We are about to turnover aging vets and a swell of cap space is coming available next year. VD, CT, Colt, Case...contracts are up. Kerrigan has no guaranteed money after this year on his contract. Reed, AP, Norman, TW and Moses all contracts have limited guaranteed contracts and are all in play to cut and move on from. Even with Alex Smith cap hit, we could have some of the biggest cap space in the league if cuts happen....And they def should.

4. A new voice is needed for the fans. Goes without saying...ratings, attendance all time lows for the Org. We don’t want old Skins walking around, talking about the glory years...fuck that noise. We need a plan for the future and we need to move away from the past. A new GM could deliver a vision...or even develop a culture.

5. We need a GM who players can trust. If we don’t trade TW and he sits or reluctantly returns...We need a GM who can fix this issue fairly quick. I could see a situation where a new GM comes in, smooths over and extends the best Tackle in the game. It wouldn’t be the worst thing. Also, extending Scherff should be a top priority. But a new GM who can build stronger relationships with our players could change culture.

I think things could change quickly if a new GM comes in and Bruce is fired. It’s our most important decision Snyder makes this year and he needs to do it now.

[Bridgewater77]

Peterson needs to play more.

[Bridgewater77]

Peterson needs to play more. Definitely

[Bridgewater77]

Peterson needs to play more. Definitely much more. Bridgewater had the connection with him.