Who will be the next coach of the Redskins and does it even freakin matter?

[Warthog]

Originally Posted by SolidSnake84

I haven't heard anything all year long about Bruce's job being in danger. As much as we all want him to go, i think there is a better chance of him being here next year, possibly beyond. People seem to underestimate how close Dan and Bruce are. Way closer than him and Vinny ever were. This has been reported. Maybe Dan wakes up and realizes how toxic Bruce really is, but I doubt it. I hope i'm wrong. Everyone hopes that Bruce gets fired, i just don't see it happening.

Agreed. To Snyder, who by all appearances is not that bright, does not know how to manage or motivate people, nor has any amount of NFL knowledge, Bruce Allen, he believes, is going to get him into a new stadium.

BA = new stadium in the future.

BA will eventually be sacrificed to the enormous media and fan pressure of continuous terrible seasons. But it will take several 1-3 win seasons to fire Bruce.


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[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Warthog

Agreed. To Snyder, who by all appearances is not that bright, does not know how to manage or motivate people, nor has any amount of NFL knowledge, Bruce Allen, he believes, is going to get him into a new stadium.

BA = new stadium in the future.

BA will eventually be sacrificed to the enormous media and fan pressure of continuous terrible seasons. But it will take several 1-3 win seasons to fire Bruce.


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This is what I want. A 1 win season. Because this would totally humiliate Snyder to the point that he'd have no choice but to fire everyone. He'd have no choice but to bring in a GM.

[Schneed10]

Clinging stubbornly to the belief that we're close. The reluctance to deal the good older players for picks is the biggest sign yet that Allen needs to go. His stubborn and incorrect belief that we're not that far away is the biggest obstacle to us taking the steps we need to rebuild.

Firing him is the only thing that will help. Until he's gone we shall suck.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

Clinging stubbornly to the belief that we're close. The reluctance to deal the good older players for picks is the biggest sign yet that Allen needs to go. His stubborn and incorrect belief that we're not that far away is the biggest obstacle to us taking the steps we need to rebuild.

Firing him is the only thing that will help. Until he's gone we shall suck.

I agree with everything here, except I don't think Allen truly believes that we're close. Allen is not a good GM, but he's been around the game his entire life and a senior football executive on 3 teams in the past 20 years. He's been around some good, but mostly bad, teams. He knows what good rosters look like and what bad ones look like.

So that's why I don't think Allen believes what he's selling. The "we're close" thing is just the narrative he puts out there to try and justify his continued employment - to both the fans and the owner.

[SunnySide]

If I was Bruce, Id realize that I could generate more fan excitement and hope by making trades, big trades for picks, ... vs hoping this team will go 4-4 down the stretch.

if we had traded Trent (1st and 4th) and kerrigan (4th) .. we would have a thread discussing what we can do with 2 1st rounders, etc ... a thread of hope. Draft picks are like the day before you go on vacation .. everything is perfect planned out and fantasized in your head .. then you get to beach and it rains, your kid sucks and reality sets in.

Your body probably releases more dopamine the day before your vacation vs actually being on your vacation.

Let us day dream Bruce

[Ruhskins]

Here's my master plan to get rid of Bruce Allen (which will never work):

- Fans reach out to Dale Jr. asking him to plead with Gibbs to talk to Snyder
- Gibbs tells Snyder he should fire Allen (Snyder worships Gibbs)
- Danny gets rid of BA

#onecanonlydream

[mooby]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Here's my master plan to get rid of Bruce Allen (which will never work):

- Fans reach out to Dale Jr. asking him to plead with Gibbs to talk to Snyder
- Gibbs tells Snyder he should fire Allen (Snyder worships Gibbs)
- Danny gets rid of BA

#onecanonlydream

I don't think Joe Gibbs would advocate for harming another living person, either physically or by removing them from their job.

The better scenario is Dale Jr. calls Snyder directly and says "Dan, it's time. Bruce Allen has to go." And then everything magically clicks in Dan's head and it happens.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by mooby

I don't think Joe Gibbs would advocate for harming another living person, either physically or by removing them from their job.



The better scenario is Dale Jr. calls Snyder directly and says "Dan, it's time. Bruce Allen has to go." And then everything magically clicks in Dan's head and it happens.

Gibbs has cut and fired people as a head coach, if he saw the state of the franchise and felt passionate enough he would do something, but the last interview I saw of him he was talking about the Skins homefield advantage. That told me he has checked out of this team.

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[calia]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Gibbs has cut and fired people as a head coach, if he saw the state of the franchise and felt passionate enough he would do something, but the last interview I saw of him he was talking about the Skins homefield advantage. That told me he has checked out of this team.

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He wasn't --- he was just talking about it when home field was RFK.

What can Gibbs do? He's probably as crushed as anyone to see the disrepair that the franchise has fallen in to. But he's moved on from football, and he's enjoying life. Wading into this mess would be the opposite of that.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by calia

He wasn't --- he was just talking about it when home field was RFK.



What can Gibbs do? He's probably as crushed as anyone to see the disrepair that the franchise has fallen in to. But he's moved on from football, and he's enjoying life. Wading into this mess would be the opposite of that.

Not sure what you mean, but Gibbs was asked about the advantage the current team had in that night's game, and he answered that it was the homefield fans, even though the stadium was flooded with the opponents fans.

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[Warthog]

Bruce Allen will be fired when the media and fan pressure for Snyder to “do something” to repair the situation gets so high that this sacrifice must be made. That’s what happened to the last lackey, “yes man”, Vinny Cerrato. BA’s job is to be the front man so that Snyder can secretly make decisions about all aspects of the Redskins franchise. When BA is finally fired, he will be replaced by another toadie like Allen or Cerrato.

The unfortunate aspect of this teams location is that instead of there being 10,000 to 20,000 loyal fans showing up to each game - there are 20-50,000 opposing fans filling the seats every game. The NFL would demand action if the stadium was 75% empty every week. But it’s 50-70% full of fans, mostly from the opposition. So Snyder gets paid and the NFL doesn’t see an empty stadium. Also, Snyder paid $800 mill for the team twenty years ago and now it’s worth $3 billion.

The only way this situation changes is if Snyder grows a brain or FINALLY gives control of the team to a GM AND a HC who are NFL trained and NFL smart. O’Connell is a long-shot possibility to be a decent HC but Bruce Allen must be replaced as the GM. BA is just far too incompetent and he also doesn’t understand his many limitations. He’s an anchor that’s sinking this ship.


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[30gut]

New coach doesn’t matter.

I would go for a well organized leader of men.

We need a new GM.....is it possible to find a GM that can manage Dan Snyder?

[Warthog]

Originally Posted by 30gut

New coach doesn’t matter.



I would go for a well organized leader of men.



We need a new GM.....is it possible to find a GM that can manage Dan Snyder?

Bruce Allen and Cerrato (the guy before him) are there out front, while Snyder sits behind and makes decisions. As long as Snyder keeps making decisions for the team, using BA as his interference, the team will stay bad. H’s just too incompetent, petty and just a poor leader.


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[Chico23231]

https://nesn.com/2019/11/nfl-rumors-...e-play-caller/

Steve Belichick for defensive coordinator next year? I would def be intrigued by the possibility.

[DYoungJelly]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

https://nesn.com/2019/11/nfl-rumors-...e-play-caller/

Steve Belichick for defensive coordinator next year? I would def be intrigued by the possibility.

Dare to dream.

Idk, but he might be able to get his foot in the door somewhere else...