The Haskins Threat

[mike340]

After seeing the interview I'm 75% that he's a bust and 25% that it's too early.

I'm reminded of the joke where a woman was in a big flood and asked God to help her. Later 3 different boats came by and asked if they could help and she said "No, God will help." After she drowned she saw God and asked why he hadn't helped. And he asked "And the 3 boats...?"

I'm just left with the feeling that he thinks that in time, "God will provide" and that he doesn't need to do that much to help.

[Warthog]

Play Haskins for the rest of the season and see how he progresses (or not). Use a third or fourth draft pick to get a project QB. Use the majority of the 2020 draft, to build a solid OL. Trade to get any extras draft picks for the following players:

Norman
Richardson
TW
Kerrigan
Moses (May get a ham sandwich for him)
Scherff
Etc.

We may be using a top draft for a QB IN 2021, after seeing Haskins on his second season if he fails to progress.






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[Defensewins]

It is not about bust or not.
Even before the draft I did not think Haskins was a franchise QB ready to be a high draft pick,much less ready to play in the NFL. Physically he is talented. Preparation and fundamentals he is at least a year or two away.
It is not that it take so long to learn. It takes a long time to break bad habits that he has developed over the course of his entire plying career because he was always one of the best players on his high school and college field. Now in NFL he is not the best and his bad footwork and undisciplined play is magnified. It’s a lot like trying to change your golf swing you have had your entire life or learning to write with your left hand. It does not happen after one training camp. Sometimes (see RGIii) it never happens.
It is so easy for a top athlete QB in high school and college to be exceptional and not learn the fundamentals. This is what we have.

[Buffalo Bob]

Originally Posted by Defensewins

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It is so easy for a top athlete QB in high school and college to be exceptional and not learn the fundamentals. This is what we have.

Why? As someone pushing 60 who competed in quite a diverse range of sports and took lessons in others just for leisure as a youth I cannot name one where fundamentals weren't pounded into everyone's head from the get go. Now we see NFL quarterbacks with bad footwork and defenders using poor tackling techniques that would have earned an ass chewing from a Pop Warner coach.

I am just going to assume these days if you are strong, fast, and or talented enough to be an impact player in spite of poor fundamentals and mental mistakes coaches don't bother forcing you to improve.

[SolidSnake84]

Originally Posted by Buffalo Bob

Why? As someone pushing 60 who competed in quite a diverse range of sports and took lessons in others just for leisure as a youth I cannot name one where fundamentals weren't pounded into everyone's head from the get go. Now we see NFL quarterbacks with bad footwork and defenders using poor tackling techniques that would have earned an ass chewing from a Pop Warner coach.

I am just going to assume these days if you are strong, fast, and or talented enough to be an impact player in spite of poor fundamentals and mental mistakes coaches don't bother forcing you to improve.

Your quote is 100% spot on. Pure athletic ability and Raw talent can sometimes overcome poor basics / mechanics. Coaches know that and you like you say, if their ability is just so supreme, they don't spend a lot of time trying to correct anything, if it is "working"

[Warthog]

I’m starting to see statements come out of Redskins camp: “Haskins may need to sit out this year OR MAYBE ANOTHER SEASON or more. Only a draft pick by the idiot twins Allen / Snyder could pick a QB who is a freakin’ MULTI-YEAR project. I am now of the opinion that the Redskins need to draft a QB with their top five 2020 draft pick. Whichever QB can develop faster stays on the team and the other is trade bait.

This really is a disaster. Bruce Allen is officially the worst GM in the NFL. But what is worse is that he so smug and stupid that he doesn’t even KNOW IT.


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[VTSkins1961]

Too early to tell is Haskins is a bust but it would be wise to play him after the bye to see what we got so we can plan the upcoming draft accordingly. He hasn't looked good but o-line hasn't been that good either. A great o-line can make a average qb look great....

[rocnrik]

One year starter on a powerhouse college team that has far superior talent to most of there opponents is not a true indicator of there success in the NFL.. Haskins just did not develop bad habits overnight.. did they not see the flaws? The redskins went in the draft QB blind .. they were taking a QB regardless .. looking back I liked the pick however I know nothing but apparently I know as much as Bruce and Dan ..nobody can feel good about where we are at concerning the QB ..I fear we panic and pick another QB with top pick in draft and who is to say that works ... How about the guy in Jax.. when Foles comes back would they move him ? McCoy should be gone.. Keenum is the best we got.. Smith is done .. haskins at best is a 1-2 year project that should have been a 3rd -4th rnd pick .. The last two games were winnable with average QB play .. 10 points wins the 49er game and we were in it late at Vikings.. Is there a vet QB out there that would come here on the cheap that would be upgrade over this mess we got?

[Buffalo Bob]

Originally Posted by rocnrik

The last two games were winnable with average QB play .. 10 points wins the 49er game and we were in it late at Vikings.. Is there a vet QB out there that would come here on the cheap that would be upgrade over this mess we got?

I am not so sure about that I think both those teams kept in vanilla on offense and didn't take any risks knowing their opponent would gain around 200 yards and score in single digits.

[httr198020]

I'm going to say what I know most of us already know. We made a big mistake by drafting Haskins. He is nowhere close to being able to run an NFL offense. In this up and coming draft we are going to be in position to draft a young qb who can. I understand that we need to be sure about Haskins. Therefore, we should put him out there to see can we mold him into something. But I think I've seen enough of this guy to know that he can't play in this league.

[Meks]

I didn't like the pick at 15 I thought we could have used a different piece of the puzzle but we've got who we got. Time to see if he's gonna be the guy or not. It's senseless to start keenum or colt, flat out senseless.

[rocnrik]

A lot of pre draft guys were comparing Minshaw of Jax to Case keenum .. both played in air raid type of offense.. Minshaw looks good to me for a rookie! I know that minshaw had a lot of experience in the college ranks .. Why do we always seem to screw up our top picks ? And is Bruce Allen really calling the draft picks ...

[OmahaRedskins]

I am guessing Bruce has more input on the first 1st and 2nd round, maybe the 3rd round. After that, it is probably the draft team.

[skinsfan69]

It's one thing to play bad and struggle some, it's another to not be able to run the offense. That is what the Redskins face if he's in there. IDK it's a tough decision but it may be made for them if Case can't go. If he has to start Sun I'd imagine that Colt may have to play as well..

[rocnrik]

I’m with you .. it’s not the interceptions or the sacks .. heck the best do that ! After 6 months in playbook he still cant grasp the basic playbook enough for the coaches to feel good about it... I believe that Bruce and dan have100% told coaches that Haskins has to play hence colt is 3rd string .i know we suck but the team has not quit if Haskins plays rest of year and is bad and the team does say screw this then we will have a total melt down where guys will say its not Haskins the team has quit! I believe the situation will determine when Haskins plays .. you can’t name him starter if Case can go .. unless Bruce and dan are calling that ..