trump Inpeachment...............

[mooby]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

You are seriously gonna take a fringe group...what .000000000000000000000000000000000000001 Percentage of the us population and somehow say that is representative of normal people and how they vote or something? I’m gonna be honest...I wouldn’t know how they vote or what exactly they represent...even if they vote at all. If they vote gop or dems...Im not gonna label them a representative of some norm

Put down the internet and go outside mooby....it’s all good

You are seriously going to suggest you don't know how these white supremacists are voting?


Jesus fucking christ Chico, the entire reason I entered this argument is to point out how racists are being enabled to go public because of Trump. You're the one disputing that. And I'm the one who needs to go outside?

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by mooby

You are seriously going to suggest you don't know how these white supremacists are voting?


Jesus fucking christ Chico, the entire reason I entered this argument is to point out how racists are being enabled to go public because of Trump. You're the one disputing that. And I'm the one who needs to go outside?

No the whole argument is all racist are republican...which is insane. The internet has given "the fringe" more visibility which leads to more power in a sense. Are we really going to then perform the illogical step of taking the fringe and thinking they are majority or something? Then you are guilty of giving them what they want. Should we fight white supremacy? ab-so-fucking-lutly...yes, we need resources thrown at the rhetoric. But then to be so sensitive that leads to absurdity group thought that "only racists are republican" is not only supremely false but deserves to be bashed as well. Its unacceptable. Are all terrorists muslim?...the statement is rooted in the same fallacy. We need to understand hate is hate...whether its white supremacy, Islamic terrorism, Drug cartels killing the innocent in northern mexico, street gangs killing each other in Chicago or ms-13 killing PG county, violent political mobs in portland...there is no woke pyramid where one is acceptable and the other isn't. Its all rooted in hate and its a small percentage of the people within these respected groups.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

No the whole argument is all racist are republican...which is insane. The internet has given "the fringe" more visibility which leads to more power in a sense. Are we really going to then perform the illogical step of taking the fringe and thinking they are majority or something? Then you are guilty of giving them what they want. Should we fight white supremacy? ab-so-fucking-lutly...yes, we need resources thrown at the rhetoric. But then to be so sensitive that leads to absurdity group thought that "only racists are republican" is not only supremely false but deserves to be bashed as well. Its unacceptable. Are all terrorists muslim?...the statement is rooted in the same fallacy. We need to understand hate is hate...whether its white supremacy, Islamic terrorism, Drug cartels killing the innocent in northern mexico, street gangs killing each other in Chicago or ms-13 killing PG county, violent political mobs in portland...there is no woke pyramid where one is acceptable and the other isn't. Its all rooted in hate and its a small percentage of the people within these respected groups.

I thought I expanded on that, did you miss the part where I clarified it as all-white supremacists are Republicans?

Saying all racists are Republican is trying to simplify the argument, I know NC is referring to white supremacists but if we're going to debate this we need to pick our words carefully.

Also I agree racists/terrorists generally make up a small sect of a nationality/group, my whole point is saying white supremacists have been going public since Trump won because he promotes their views. When he says there's fine people on both sides (when one side is non-racists and the other side is the alt-right) he's literally complimenting the alt-right, like they should be allowed to spew their thinly-veiled racist views in public. Just because the alt-right is getting smarter about how they dress, or how they talk, doesn't mean their goal isn't the same its' always been in the end.

[Buffalo Bob]

Originally Posted by mooby

I thought I expanded on that, did you miss the part where I clarified it as all-white supremacists are Republicans?

Saying all racists are Republican is trying to simplify the argument, I know NC is referring to white supremacists but if we're going to debate this we need to pick our words carefully.

Also I agree racists/terrorists generally make up a small sect of a nationality/group, my whole point is saying white supremacists have been going public since Trump won because he promotes their views. When he says there's fine people on both sides (when one side is non-racists and the other side is the alt-right) he's literally complimenting the alt-right, like they should be allowed to spew their thinly-veiled racist views in public. Just because the alt-right is getting smarter about how they dress, or how they talk, doesn't mean their goal isn't the same its' always been in the end.

And how many people did those white supremacists kill or maim today? Compare that number to non whites from the cartels on down fighting over drug territory. Yet all your anger is directed at Whitey, why is that?

I think the best way to deal with white supremacists is to ignore them. Most of them are just making a bunch of noise. When they have one of their dumb ass public rallies don't give it any news coverage. Have the anti protesters stay at home. I think they use their public display and the havoc it causes as a recruiting video, if they were speaking to an empty house the public gatherings would have little impact.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by mooby

I thought I expanded on that, did you miss the part where I clarified it as all-white supremacists are Republicans?

Saying all racists are Republican is trying to simplify the argument, I know NC is referring to white supremacists but if we're going to debate this we need to pick our words carefully.

Also I agree racists/terrorists generally make up a small sect of a nationality/group, my whole point is saying white supremacists have been going public since Trump won because he promotes their views. When he says there's fine people on both sides (when one side is non-racists and the other side is the alt-right) he's literally complimenting the alt-right, like they should be allowed to spew their thinly-veiled racist views in public. Just because the alt-right is getting smarter about how they dress, or how they talk, doesn't mean their goal isn't the same its' always been in the end.

white supremacist have been going public since trump? And promotes their views?

Both false statements...but carry on.

[Giantone]

So , moving ahead with the trump Impeachment.....................


https://www.yahoo.com/news/mike-penc...150657621.html
WASHINGTON – President Donald Trump's former national security adviser John Bolton and an aide to Vice President Mike Pence were invited to testify behind closed doors before a House impeachment panel Thursday, but Bolton failed to appear.


.............and.


George Kent, a deputy assistant secretary of State, told the House impeachment inquiry that efforts to undermine Marie Yovanovitch, the former U.S. ambassador to Ukraine, began in 2018, a year before President Donald Trump recalled her in May, according to a transcript released Thursday.

Lev Parnas and Igor Fruman, two associates of Trump’s personal lawyer, Rudy Giuliani, met with former Rep. Pete Sessions, R-Texas, on May 19, 2018, according to Kent. That’s the day Sessions wrote to Secretary of State Mike Pompeo “impugning Ambassador Yovanovitch's loyalty and suggesting that she be removed,” Kent told lawmakers Oct. 15.

Parnas and Fruman have since been charged with campaign-finance violations, for which they’ve pleaded not guilty.

Kent also said that Yuriy Lutsenko, Ukraine’s prosecutor general, “vowed revenge” after Yovanovitch encouraged reforms in his office.

“Based on what I know, Yuriy Lutsenko, as prosecutor general, vowed revenge, and provided information to Rudy Giuliani in hopes that he would spread it and lead to her removal,” Kent said.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

white supremacist have been going public since trump? And promotes their views?

Both false statements...but carry on.

That's all you got?

You aren't worth the keys on my keyboard.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by mooby

That's all you got?

You aren't worth the keys on my keyboard.

yeah, the two of them are reaching again.

[Buffalo Bob]

Anyone notice how when you toss a liberal's double standards in their face you are either ignored or get an explanation that the O.J. jury would not believe.

Once again examples from my real life. Here is the background, my girlfriend is liberal, she works for the feds, is well educated and makes a nice salary.
We have been together 12 years.

I started having male pattern baldness by the time I was 19, by 30 I just shaved my head and been doing so ever since. I am now 58. I never did any of the obvious things people do to try to cover up baldness or graying hair. Anyway when I see someone with a comb over, a bad hair dye job, etc. I would tell my girlfriend, quietly, "Who does that guy think he is fooling." He looks foolish. Of course I would get ripped into for my comments, and told how insensitive I was, blah, blah, blah.

Now that we have President Comb Over my girlfriend and her liberal family members constantly make fun of Trump's hair and orange tan, but when I did the same in the past with strangers I saw on the street I was an insensitive jackass. When I confront my girlfriend about this double standard she angrily tells me it is a completely different situation.

I have enough stories of liberal double standards and hypocrisy that could fill a book.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by mooby

That's all you got?

You aren't worth the keys on my keyboard.

Lol...I can point to the same “racists”policies enacted by the Obama administration which you and the media sat quietly by saying nothing...but when applied by the trump administration you hypocritically shout “racist”...travel ban, wall building, illegal immigrant family separation, the holding cells built by the Obama administration, and Obama deportation numbers which were higher than the previous administrations. Was Obama promoting their view?


Oh and don’t tell ncskins about my governor here in va...his yearbook pic or his nickname at VMI

[Buffalo Bob]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Lol...I can point to the same “racists”policies enacted by the Obama administration which you and the media sat quietly by saying nothing...but when applied by the trump administration you hypocritically shout “racist”...travel ban, wall building, illegal immigrant family separation, the holding cells built by the Obama administration, and Obama deportation numbers which were higher than the previous administrations. Was Obama promoting their view?


Oh and don’t tell ncskins about my governor here in va...his yearbook pic or his nickname at VMI

Wasn't that interesting how he said the pic was him then turned around and said it wasn't? One of those is a lie. He is a Democrat so he can't be a racist.
Funny how most of those old school segregationists were Democrats, hello George Wallace. In forums where off topic gets more action than here most Democrats explain that away saying old racist southern Democrats of the 60's would be Republicans if in office today. Liberals always seem to have a bull crap explanation for everything that paints them in a bad light.