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Old 11-16-2019, 11:46 AM   #1
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Re: Breaking: Montae Nicholson left woman at hospital before she died from drug overdose

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I dont fault Nicholson and his friend for bringing her to the ER and then leaving. At that point, the doctors have her and there is nothing they can do to help. Hopefully they let staff know what she took bc that would have a medical benefit.

21 year old partying with NFL player .. Im guessing the wrong mix of party drugs like ectasy and coke (which can result in very bad situations sometimes, sometimes its fine). These days, who knows what they were doing .. oxys?

I actually applaud Nicholson for (1) making the decision to bring her in, and (2) actually carrying her in and not leaving her on the stoop of her parents house, ringing the doorbell then speeding off. I assume he was equally impaired and that is a tough decision to make when your decision making capabilities are askew.

But if he and his friend delayed an hour or more before taking her to the ER .. perhaps she could have been saved. Narcan is a life saver.
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Old 11-16-2019, 12:06 PM   #2
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It is easy to speculate on what happened. All we know for sure is he took a girl to the hospital who over dosed and passed away. The optics are not good, but we should wait for the details before passing judgment.
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Old 11-16-2019, 04:11 PM   #3
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It is easy to speculate on what happened. All we know for sure is he took a girl to the hospital who over dosed and passed away. The optics are not good, but we should wait for the details before passing judgment.
Everyone is judged every day of their lives for every action (or inaction) they take. That’s life, like it or not.

He was present around people doing illegal drugs late at night during the football season. I’ve heard all I need to know. It’s unacceptable, regardless of details.
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Old 11-16-2019, 07:06 PM   #4
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Everyone is judged every day of their lives for every action (or inaction) they take. That’s life, like it or not.

He was present around people doing illegal drugs late at night during the football season. I’ve heard all I need to know. It’s unacceptable, regardless of details.
Idk Schneed, if we start railing against any Redskins for hanging out in places where people are doing serious drugs (aka a club) our roster might end up pretty thin at the important spots. I think most NFL players aren't cautious about when to partake because they have a good general idea of when they're going to be tested.

It really wouldn't surprise me to find out they were all doing molly/e/whatever. And the NFL hands out scripts like candy, maybe she OD'd off Montae's supply.

Did anyone hold Montae in good character before this? I'd dump him because he's not that good of a player and now he's making repeatedly poor life choices.
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Old 11-16-2019, 09:24 PM   #5
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Idk Schneed, if we start railing against any Redskins for hanging out in places where people are doing serious drugs (aka a club) our roster might end up pretty thin at the important spots. I think most NFL players aren't cautious about when to partake because they have a good general idea of when they're going to be tested.

It really wouldn't surprise me to find out they were all doing molly/e/whatever. And the NFL hands out scripts like candy, maybe she OD'd off Montae's supply.

Did anyone hold Montae in good character before this? I'd dump him because he's not that good of a player and now he's making repeatedly poor life choices.
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Old 11-16-2019, 10:25 PM   #6
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A club, his house, it's naive to think athletes and hard drugs don't hang out in the same circles. Even so unless Montae was doing them with her it seems the media jumped the gun on this one.

Reading into that story a bit seems like she had a drug problem. She's not the first and she won't be the last. RIP. Still, it seems like Montae didn't do much of anything wrong, the story even says he waited at the hospital for 1/2 hr. The article even says the SO is the one saying he dropped her off and left.

I still would cut him but that's because I think he's a JAG at safety.
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Idk Schneed, if we start railing against any Redskins for hanging out in places where people are doing serious drugs (aka a club) our roster might end up pretty thin at the important spots. I think most NFL players aren't cautious about when to partake because they have a good general idea of when they're going to be tested.

It really wouldn't surprise me to find out they were all doing molly/e/whatever. And the NFL hands out scripts like candy, maybe she OD'd off Montae's supply.

Did anyone hold Montae in good character before this? I'd dump him because he's not that good of a player and now he's making repeatedly poor life choices.
On my part it's neither moral judgement (I really don't care if it's good or evil), neither thinking that he'd be the only one to do that kind of things.

It's just thinking that it's piss poor business decision(s) on his(/their) part. I mean how hard can it be to hold back from hardcore partying for 5/6 months a year when you're paid millions of dollars to be available to play football ?
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On my part it's neither moral judgement (I really don't care if it's good or evil), neither thinking that he'd be the only one to do that kind of things.

It's just thinking that it's piss poor business decision(s) on his(/their) part. I mean how hard can it be to hold back from hardcore partying for 5/6 months a year when you're paid millions of dollars to be available to play football ?
I think it's important to make the distinction here for a couple reasons. This conversation about athletes and partying is one thing, but the conversation about Montae needs to be separate. The article says he was playing video games and his girl went to the bathroom which is where they heard her fall to the floor. So he wasn't doing anything wrong. Then I'm sure the shock of her OD'ing probably overwhelmed him so he wasn't sure what to do next.

If he just dumped her at the hospital and bailed that would really look bad but even that is being called into question by the WaPo article. It says he waited for 1/2 hr and then left once her brother got there.

If you wanna talk about why athletes feel the need to go out partying before they have a game that's gonna be a long discussion, I'm pretty sure that's a leaguewide problem. Guys have been doing that for decades now.
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I think it's important to make the distinction here for a couple reasons. This conversation about athletes and partying is one thing, but the conversation about Montae needs to be separate. The article says he was playing video games and his girl went to the bathroom which is where they heard her fall to the floor. So he wasn't doing anything wrong. Then I'm sure the shock of her OD'ing probably overwhelmed him so he wasn't sure what to do next.



If he just dumped her at the hospital and bailed that would really look bad but even that is being called into question by the WaPo article. It says he waited for 1/2 hr and then left once her brother got there.



If you wanna talk about why athletes feel the need to go out partying before they have a game that's gonna be a long discussion, I'm pretty sure that's a leaguewide problem. Guys have been doing that for decades now.
OK my bad I hadn't read the details of the story.
Jumped to conclusions too fast.

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Idk Schneed, if we start railing against any Redskins for hanging out in places where people are doing serious drugs (aka a club) our roster might end up pretty thin at the important spots. I think most NFL players aren't cautious about when to partake because they have a good general idea of when they're going to be tested.

It really wouldn't surprise me to find out they were all doing molly/e/whatever. And the NFL hands out scripts like candy, maybe she OD'd off Montae's supply.

Did anyone hold Montae in good character before this? I'd dump him because he's not that good of a player and now he's making repeatedly poor life choices.
If they're hanging out in clubs late at night during the season then getting rid of all of those players is EXACTLY what we need to change the culture around here.

How anybody goes along thinking any of these things are acceptable is beyond me.
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Old 11-18-2019, 09:15 AM   #11
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If they're hanging out in clubs late at night during the season then getting rid of all of those players is EXACTLY what we need to change the culture around here.

How anybody goes along thinking any of these things are acceptable is beyond me.
I'm just saying, in today's league talented players are also headcases for a reason. The kind of headcases that are willing to go out partying on a Fri/Sat night before a game.

Do you not read players stories that they put out there? I'd say partying during a game week is probably a leaguewide problem. Maybe the Pats are the exception because Belichick has won 6 SB's, but you think Antonio Brown wasn't doing whatever the hell he wanted when he was with the Steelers (another "model" organization with the proper culture).

If you want talented guys on your team you're gonna have to put up with their ego's too. The Kerrigans of the NFL world (team first, does his job good, will never have off-the-field trouble) are a rarity.
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^^^^ This times 1000% . Great reply.
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