Campbell, now!

[amorentz]

Its crazy to start Campbell. Brunell is generally moving the offense, looking good and it would be best for Campbell to sit for a season or two. It never hurts to have a guy chill out on the bench and actually learn the system before he is asked to play.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by amorentz

Its crazy to start Campbell. Brunell is generally moving the offense, looking good and it would be best for Campbell to sit for a season or two. It never hurts to have a guy chill out on the bench and actually learn the system before he is asked to play.

I definitely agree. Most teams don't have the luxury of letting a young QB ride the pine for 1-2 seasons, but I think that's the plan especially with the re-birth of Brunell.

[ST21]

Sure why not....then we can find out if he's dumb as some of these fans on this site say he is....

[offiss]

Originally Posted by wewhite3

Sure why not....then we can find out if he's dumb as some of these fans on this site say he is....

Couldn't agree more, he's proven to outplay Brunell under the same conditions last year, and he had more passing yards in 1 quarter against the Bears than Brunell had all game.

This misconception that Ramsey wouldn't have progressed and become better with this offense just like Brunell has isn't fair to Ramsey, he hasen't been given the same opportunities as Brunell, to many here believe just because Ramsey is on the bench he can't play. Whether or not it's true it's just not fair to Ramsey who really hasen't been given a fair shot at the job, for all we know he might open up the offense by hitting recievers much deeper downfield, then maybe he wont, but there is no way to say because Gibbs has Brunell and he aint letting go, he couldn't let go last year and everyone on this board was on the Ramsey bandwagon because of the horrific play of Brunell, and it was true, many of us also felt it wasen't all Brunell's fault either, but Ramsey simply outplayed him under the same circumstances.

Ramsey may never get a chance again with us, but he's going to prove himself somewhere next season, good or bad. I believe he will go on to be very good for someone.


He deserves a chance to prove or disprove he's as dumb as everyone say's! Although now that we are basically down to 1 WR I could see Gibbs throwing Ramsey in there to protect Brunell's persona.

[FirstandTen]

Originally Posted by offiss

Couldn't agree more, he's proven to outplay Brunell under the same conditions last year, and he had more passing yards in 1 quarter against the Bears than Brunell had all game.

This misconception that Ramsey wouldn't have progressed and become better with this offense just like Brunell has isn't fair to Ramsey, he hasen't been given the same opportunities as Brunell, to many here believe just because Ramsey is on the bench he can't play. Whether or not it's true it's just not fair to Ramsey who really hasen't been given a fair shot at the job, for all we know he might open up the offense by hitting recievers much deeper downfield, then maybe he wont, but there is no way to say because Gibbs has Brunell and he aint letting go, he couldn't let go last year and everyone on this board was on the Ramsey bandwagon because of the horrific play of Brunell, and it was true, many of us also felt it wasen't all Brunell's fault either, but Ramsey simply outplayed him under the same circumstances.

Ramsey may never get a chance again with us, but he's going to prove himself somewhere next season, good or bad. I believe he will go on to be very good for someone.


He deserves a chance to prove or disprove he's as dumb as everyone say's! Although now that we are basically down to 1 WR I could see Gibbs throwing Ramsey in there to protect Brunell's persona.

Wow your really reading into this... Bottom Line RAMSEY Is not Good and were 5-5. If we get worse maybe Campbell will come in.

[railcon56]

Originally Posted by offiss

Couldn't agree more, he's proven to outplay Brunell under the same conditions last year, and he had more passing yards in 1 quarter against the Bears than Brunell had all game.

This misconception that Ramsey wouldn't have progressed and become better with this offense just like Brunell has isn't fair to Ramsey, he hasen't been given the same opportunities as Brunell, to many here believe just because Ramsey is on the bench he can't play. Whether or not it's true it's just not fair to Ramsey who really hasen't been given a fair shot at the job, for all we know he might open up the offense by hitting recievers much deeper downfield, then maybe he wont, but there is no way to say because Gibbs has Brunell and he aint letting go, he couldn't let go last year and everyone on this board was on the Ramsey bandwagon because of the horrific play of Brunell, and it was true, many of us also felt it wasen't all Brunell's fault either, but Ramsey simply outplayed him under the same circumstances.

Ramsey may never get a chance again with us, but he's going to prove himself somewhere next season, good or bad. I believe he will go on to be very good for someone.


He deserves a chance to prove or disprove he's as dumb as everyone say's! Although now that we are basically down to 1 WR I could see Gibbs throwing Ramsey in there to protect Brunell's persona.

I could not agree with you more..he never got his chance .... i wanna see what he can do i do know in the first half before he was hurt he was hitting deeper passes and crisper... that opens up everything including the run...

[56FAN]

I'm sorry but i've put my matches away so i wouldn't burn up the regular season prematurely. we can still make some noise. we just can't look too far ahead.this team is still learning.as aggrivating as that is , the trip has been sooooooooo long and soooooooo painful that we are impatient for it to happen. my name is at the top of just such a list.this is like someone learning to play guitar who wants to play a song.but it won't happen til they learn the chords, and sometimes that twang can be painful.BUT, when we learn how play that power chord then the music will begin.

[44deisel44]

Originally Posted by 56FAN

I'm sorry but i've put my matches away so i wouldn't burn up the regular season prematurely. we can still make some noise. we just can't look too far ahead.this team is still learning.as aggrivating as that is , the trip has been sooooooooo long and soooooooo painful that we are impatient for it to happen. my name is at the top of just such a list.this is like someone learning to play guitar who wants to play a song.but it won't happen til they learn the chords, and sometimes that twang can be painful.BUT, when we learn how play that power chord then the music will begin.

RIGHT ON 56!!!!!

[railcon56]

Originally Posted by 56FAN

I'm sorry but i've put my matches away so i wouldn't burn up the regular season prematurely. we can still make some noise. we just can't look too far ahead.this team is still learning.as aggrivating as that is , the trip has been sooooooooo long and soooooooo painful that we are impatient for it to happen. my name is at the top of just such a list.this is like someone learning to play guitar who wants to play a song.but it won't happen til they learn the chords, and sometimes that twang can be painful.BUT, when we learn how play that power chord then the music will begin.

no matter what i post i wont give up.... i still havent

[skinsguy]

Don't get me wrong, I like Patrick Ramsey and if he got put back into the starting position, I'd pull for him too! But, I just dont' see Ramsey having the same type of leadership qualities that Mark Brunell possess. I think those qualities come with time. I believe Patrick is a late bloomer. There are several quarterbacks who really don't prove themselves until later in their career. I'm think Patrick is one of those guys. He has had the opportunitity to come in and prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that he's a team leader and a starter. You have got to be both as a quarterback. I think Ramsey is good enough to start on many teams, but not good enough to be a team leader. In time, I think he will be, but I do not believe replacing Mark Brunell is the answer to getting us out of this slump.

Holding onto the ball is what will get us out of this slump.

[SUNRA]

The more threads that talk about what Brunell is or isn't doing while clearly ignoring the root problems of the Redskins inconsistency reveals a need for that person or persons to get aa immediate check up from the neck up.

Without Brunell there is no 5 wins. There are maybe three wins and five near comback losses to add to Ramsey collection. Brunell has done the unthinkable in many cases, with throwing on the run, scrambling for the first down or finding the open receiver. No bum QB can lead a team against a 1# defensive team and score 28 points on offense and 7 on special teams. Brunell has fought in every game and is determined to finish strong this season. 3 reasons the turnovers and lack of offensive points are:

1. A very weak front four and poor blockling by Cooley and Royal. Especilally Cooley.
2.Walt Harris has been burned more times than you can shake a stick at.
3.No depth in the RB, DT, DE or CB positions. If a player is injured there should be another player to step up.

[FirstandTen]

Originally Posted by SUNRA

The more threads that talk about what Brunell is or isn't doing while clearly ignoring the root problems of the Redskins inconsistency reveals a need for that person or persons to get aa immediate check up from the neck up.

Without Brunell there is no 5 wins. There are maybe three wins and five near comback losses to add to Ramsey collection. Brunell has done the unthinkable in many cases, with throwing on the run, scrambling for the first down or finding the open receiver. No bum QB can lead a team against a 1# defensive team and score 28 points on offense and 7 on special teams. Brunell has fought in every game and is determined to finish strong this season. 3 reasons the turnovers and lack of offensive points are:

1. A very weak front four and poor blockling by Cooley and Royal. Especilally Cooley.
2.Walt Harris has been burned more times than you can shake a stick at.
3.No depth in the RB, DT, DE or CB positions. If a player is injured there should be another player to step up.

well said ..... Please Ramsey fans think clearly......

[Luxorreb]

Tried not to involve myself with this thread. Thought it would fade.
But it didn't so here ya go. Starting Ramsey or Campbell at this point in the season with no major injury to Brunell is defeatest. I'm not willing to scrap the season yet. Any of those who are I beg ya to find a different team. I've been here thru the lean years, superbowl years and more lean years. Jack Pardee to Norv Turner. You wanna call for starting the 2nd string then go buy a copy of madden 2k6. Maybe LJ Smith will catch your prayer. With Cowboys loss today we're very much alive in the NFC East with 6 games remaining. Let's not hear that the season's over til it is. If ya don't believe then go join the Colts website asap. IN GIBBS I TRUST!!!