Coaching and Front Office Changes

[mooby]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

No one is saying he hasn't done jack - just that he hasn't done anything to deserve being handed an OC position.

I want to assume I'm reading this wrong, because it reads like you think KOC was promoted to OC and then playcaller even though he didn't do anything to deserve being promoted.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by mooby

I want to assume I'm reading this wrong, because it reads like you think KOC was promoted to OC and then playcaller even though he didn't do anything to deserve being promoted.

I think the point was that with a new, better, staff coming in, KOC's limited experience doesn't qualify as an automatic pass on going through the interview and evaluation process. If KOC impresses we all hope that Rivera will make his choice on those basis' not whether KOC was a golden child here before, or Scott Turner was his OC in Carolina.

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[SkinzWin]

Craig Hoffman
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Rivera says here they have a ST coordinator in place. Was told that is in reference to Nate Kaczor, who is staying on in the same role where he helped guide Tress Way to a Pro Bowl season

[SFREDSKIN]

Morocco Mole could be back

https://www.hogshaven.com/2020/1/3/2...ding-candidate

[CRedskinsRule]

It looks like some of Carolina staff moving north.

https://www.nbcsports.com/washington...kins-favorites

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[davy]

I would love Pat Shurmur as OC.

[Schneed10]

Yes Pat Shurmur would be an outstanding get. I think I’d also be thrilled to retain O’Connell.

But if you want to compare resumes it’s Shurmur hands down. Very accomplished at multiple stops.

[Skinsfanatic]

So Pat Shurmur as OC and Jason Garrett as QB Coach?

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by Skinsfanatic

So Pat Shurmur as OC and Jason Garrett as QB Coach?

I mean y not? But Garrett will get an OC role somewhere

[Buffalo Bob]

Originally Posted by Skinsfanatic

So Pat Shurmur as OC and Jason Garrett as QB Coach?

Need to find someone to give Dwayne Haskins consistent grade A fundamentals.
I noticed how Keenum usually throw tight spirals with his feet properly planted and a nice arm motion. If that could only rub off on Haskins. I don't get the inconsistency with him and his techniques.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

I would love Shurmur over KOC.

Young, rising, offensive coordinators are all the rage right now. While I dont think KOC has done anything even remotely remarkable yet, he's talked about enough that, if he has a great year or two, he'll be a serious HC candidate in 2021 or 2022. So if he sucks, we clearly don't want him. But if he's good, we're going to lose him and have to look for another OC again.

Shurmur, on the other hand, is a proven, excellent OC who has failed twice as a head coach. I doubt he gets a 3rd chance any time soon. We would have him for as long as we want him.

Give me the proven high-quality candidate who will remain with the team several years over gambling on a young rising star, who, if he works out, will just leave to help some other team.

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

I would love Shurmur over KOC.

Young, rising, offensive coordinators are all the rage right now. While I dont think KOC has done anything even remotely remarkable yet, he's talked about enough that, if he has a great year or two, he'll be a serious HC candidate in 2021 or 2022. So if he sucks, we clearly don't want him. But if he's good, we're going to lose him and have to look for another OC again.

Shurmur, on the other hand, is a proven, excellent OC who has failed twice as a head coach. I doubt he gets a 3rd chance any time soon. We would have him for as long as we want him.

Give me the proven high-quality candidate who will remain with the team several years over gambling on a young rising star, who, if he works out, will just leave to help some other team.

Too much logic BHA. Too. Much. Logic.

[Burgold]

I think that KOC will be okI don't trust that Turner thing...[his dad was a turd as coach].

[CRedskinsRule]

Ryan Vermillion from Carolina will be the new Head Trainer.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Ryan Vermillion from Carolina will be the new Head Trainer.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...an-vermillion/

The Washington Post reports that the change is “a key element” of Rivera’s effort to get left tackle Trent Williams to return to the team. Williams was unhappy with how the team handled the care of a growth on his head that turned out to be cancerous. Williams held out until the trade deadline in late October and was then placed on the non-football injury list.

Williams said he didn’t think his relationship with the team could be salvaged, but it appears Rivera is banking on a new administration presenting Williams with a way to return to the fold.