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[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by MTK

For every Harbaugh there are several Jim Zorns



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Also for all of the Harbaugh comparisons remember that: Andy Reid Coaching Tree (325-289; 2 Super Bowls) is much better than the Bellichick Coaching Tree (133-171; 0 Super Bowls).

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by MTK

For every Harbaugh there are several Jim Zorns



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Stay medium Matty. Stay medium.

[JoeRedskin]

Quickie background on NYG coach

https://www.thebiglead.com/posts/joe...s-01dy0cnd303s

[RiggoDrill]

Judge spent the past eight seasons with the Patriots. The 38-year-old began working on Bill Belichick's staff as a special teams assistant in 2012 before being promoted to special teams coordinator in 2015. He added wide receivers coach to his list of responsibilities this season.

Before working with the Patriots, Judge was a special teams assistant under Nick Saban at Alabama.

From Bleacher Report

[JoeRedskin]

Of the five head coach openings at the end of the season, three were in the NFC East. At this point, only Cleveland remains open and they have their choice of the remaining potential HC's

Washington: Ron Rivera
Dallas: Mike McCarthy
Carolina: Matt Rhule
NY Giants: Joe Judge

One minority candidate hired (Rivera); Two NFL coaches in their 2nd stint as a HC (Rivera, McCarthy); One former college head coach (Rhule); One former coordinator (Joe Judge).

I think the strongest hires are the Rivera and McCarthy hires and, because of Del Rio as DC, I give the edge to Rivera. Time will tell if it Rodgers was responsible for McCarthy's success or if McCarthy enhanced Rogers ability to succeed. I am hopeful it is the former, but have a feeling it is the latter.

Rhule, who knows, college coaches have a tough time in the NFL. There have been successes, most recently Harbaugh and Pete Carroll but it seems to me that they fail more often then they succeed. Not sure Rhule is of the same ilk as Caroll and Harbaugh, but my guess is that he is not. IMHO, seems like there were other college coaches more qualified to make the leap.

Joe Judge, another who knows, as they only entry so far without ANY HC experience, there really is no track record on the guy. He may be the next Joe Gibbs or the next Josh McDaniels. Seems like a pretty random hire to me.

[Ruhskins]

Looks like the Bruce Allen of the North strikes again. #Gettleman

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[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Looks like the Bruce Allen of the North strikes again. #Gettleman

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Giants now are trying to say Matt Rhule was never their guy, they had a deal in the works last night with....check google again....Joe Judge?

In a very Bruce move they are snubbing interest Rhule, saying oh no Joe Judge was their guy all along...

give me a fucking break...

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Giants now are trying to say Matt Rhule was never their guy, they had a deal in the works last night with....check google again....Joe Judge?



In a very Bruce move they are snubbing interest Rhule, saying oh no Joe Judge was their guy all along...



give me a fucking break...

Well Rhule apparently got a 7yr 70 million contract. Pretty expensive commitment for an unproven NFL head coach hire.

What a chance for Snyder to become the wizard of the NFC East owners. 3 miserable teams with owners looking to turn around their franchises. Probable Franchise QBs in place, all 3 knew (or should have known) their current coach was out at the end of the season. Fans will have 5 solid years to judge how thw choices ownership made.

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[AnonEmouse]

Rhule coached OL under Coughlin, so is he truly just a college coach?

I wonder if the college/pro thing is maybe more about whether they have pro experience or not, whether as a coach or player. Maybe just my impression but I get the feeling if a coach has pro experience, particularly as a player, he can make the transition easier than a college only coach. That said, Petitbon, Spurrier and Zorn all had pro playing experience, so maybe I'm way off base!

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by AnonEmouse

Rhule coached OL under Coughlin, so is he truly just a college coach?



I wonder if the college/pro thing is maybe more about whether they have pro experience or not, whether as a coach or player. Maybe just my impression but I get the feeling if a coach has pro experience, particularly as a player, he can make the transition easier than a college only coach. That said, Petitbon, Spurrier and Zorn all had pro playing experience, so maybe I'm way off base!

The difference between college and pro is tied to how much control you have in the players lives. College coaches have near complete say over everything an athlete eats drinks and sleeps. An NFL coach has to deal with established veterans many who make way more then the HC.

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[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by AnonEmouse

Rhule coached OL under Coughlin, so is he truly just a college coach?

I wonder if the college/pro thing is maybe more about whether they have pro experience or not, whether as a coach or player. Maybe just my impression but I get the feeling if a coach has pro experience, particularly as a player, he can make the transition easier than a college only coach. That said, Petitbon, Spurrier and Zorn all had pro playing experience, so maybe I'm way off base!

I agree about the NFL experience. Which is why I question the Rhule hiring. Yes, he coached in the NFL - for one year, as an assistant to the Offensive Line coach in 2012. Not sure this qualifies as the type of NFL experience that leads to success.

[CRedskinsRule]

The Rhule hire smacks of Spurrier and Chip Kelly hires. Specifically with Spurrier it is a new owner thinking the hot college coach can just walk in and make that transition.

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[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

The Rhule hire smacks of Spurrier and Chip Kelly hires. Specifically with Spurrier it is a new owner thinking the hot college coach can just walk in and make that transition.

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And the Joe Judge hire happened because no one wants to work for the Bruce Allen of the North.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

The Rhule hire smacks of Spurrier and Chip Kelly hires. Specifically with Spurrier it is a new owner thinking the hot college coach can just walk in and make that transition.

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I just saw on Reddit that Tepper apparently has fuck you money though. Like his net worth is 12 billion and he brings in over a billion a year. Until Jeff Bezos buys a team Tepper is the richest owner in the NFL.

So 70 million isn't going to hurt him, but it will definitely hurt any other owner that doesn't want to spend that much on a coach.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by mooby

I just saw on Reddit that Tepper apparently has fuck you money though. Like his net worth is 12 billion and he brings in over a billion a year. Until Jeff Bezos buys a team Tepper is the richest owner in the NFL.



So 70 million isn't going to hurt him, but it will definitely hurt any other owner that doesn't want to spend that much on a coach.

Still to me it is no different than Snyder bringing Spurrier in as one of his first coaching hires. It isn't going to end well imo.

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