Coaching and Front Office Changes

[GridIron26]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Actually he was the OC the entire year. But that's besides the point. You're asking a young QB who played one year of college, struggled with the playbook, protections, formations and spitting out the plays correctly to start all over. Once he finally starts to get all that down and we see a little bit of progress you make him learn a new offense.

I feel that RR should have taken notice of the things I mentioned and left KOC in place because that was what's best for DH.

As others have mentioned everyone does the good old boy hires in the NFL. I get that. It's just part of the business that will never change.

I want to play devil's advocate here. What if KOC disagree with Riveria's coaching/teaching strategies in general? Should Riveria still keep KOC, just for sake of the continuity?

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by GridIron26

I want to play devil's advocate here. What if KOC disagree with Riveria's coaching/teaching strategies in general? Should Riveria still keep KOC, just for sake of the continuity?

No, I'm going on the assumption that RR wanted to bring in his own guy which is Norv's son.

Anyhow it looks like Scott Turner has certainly paid his dues as he's been an assistant since 2005.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by GridIron26

I want to play devil's advocate here. What if KOC disagree with Riveria's coaching/teaching strategies in general? Should Riveria still keep KOC, just for sake of the continuity?

You can play devil's advocate, I am a KOC fan and since Scott Turner is now our offensive coordinator I am now a Turner fan too.

But the bottom line is this:

Ron Rivera needs a coaching staff that will reinforce everything he teaches. He has to be in cohesion with his assistants because the players need to hear the same message from any coach no matter who it is. If KOC taught Haskins something that Rivera didn't agree with, it could cause setbacks in his development. That's why I'm not opposed to KOC leaving. The coaching staff has to have a unified philosophy.

[FrenchSkin]

Originally Posted by mooby

You can play devil's advocate, I am a KOC fan and since Scott Turner is now our offensive coordinator I am now a Turner fan too.

But the bottom line is this:

Ron Rivera needs a coaching staff that will reinforce everything he teaches. He has to be in cohesion with his assistants because the players need to hear the same message from any coach no matter who it is. If KOC taught Haskins something that Rivera didn't agree with, it could cause setbacks in his development. That's why I'm not opposed to KOC leaving. The coaching staff has to have a unified philosophy.

This.

Even if KOC becomes the next McVay, good for him, but I like our HC being able to do it the way he wants over the potential incredible abilities of the young guy.

Again, let's not forget we tend to over-evaluate the decent to good guys on this team because they were surrounded by incompetent morons. Same goes for Schaeffer. It's like Sheehan said the other day, we've been stuck in a bar with a majority of 2s and 3s girls, so the few that are 5s or 6s stood out as being incredibly hot. But let's not act like we know for sure they're 10s...

[njant]

Originally Posted by GridIron26

I want to play devil's advocate here. What if KOC disagree with Riveria's coaching/teaching strategies in general? Should Riveria still keep KOC, just for sake of the continuity?

guys even thou koc seemed good we don,t know how good or bad he was , if he was that darn good at the beginning then why didn,t he call plays when gruden was here ,lets see what turner does because are off. stunk for many reasons and play calling was one of it i was not impressed with koc