trump Inpeachment...............

[Chico23231]

Lol...so a us contractor Death from a shia proxy and an attack on the us embassy...not relevant suddenly. Must not fit the narrative

And for the record, there have been numerous us media outlets portraying soulimani as a victim and not the terrorist he was...

[mooby]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Lol...so a us contractor Death from a shia proxy and an attack on the us embassy...not relevant suddenly. Must not fit the narrative

And for the record, there have been numerous us media outlets portraying soulimani as a victim and not the terrorist he was...

How nice of you to back up your post with sources and links. I am fully inclined to believe you based on your past history of speaking nothing but facts.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by mooby

How nice of you to back up your post with sources and links. I am fully inclined to believe you based on your past history of speaking nothing but facts.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/07/p...imes&smtyp=cur

This is trash...

[mooby]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/07/p...imes&smtyp=cur

This is trash...

I agree. It's also not news, it's a guy hosting a podcast where he gathered widespread opinions of Iranian citizens and presented it under the banner of the NYT.

I'm not gonna let one person's, let alone hundreds of theirs, influence my opinion. I guess that's the difference between me and you.

Who could've guessed that Suleimani had people that approved of his work? Certainly not I. Also, how many of those people do you think consider themselves Dems?

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by mooby

I agree. It's also not news, it's a guy hosting a podcast where he gathered widespread opinions of Iranian citizens and presented it under the banner of the NYT.



I'm not gonna let one person's, let alone hundreds of theirs, influence my opinion. I guess that's the difference between me and you.



Who could've guessed that Suleimani had people that approved of his work? Certainly not I. Also, how many of those people do you think consider themselves Dems?

Since 1979 we have been Iran's enemy. It is not inconceivable that someone revered by iranian leadership and many iranian citizens would hate and target US soldiers and citizens. What boggles my mind, is how the left can so clearly understand that people like southern civil war leaders and racists from this country's past don't deserve statues or schools named after them, but when they have a modern day equivalent of the people who thought blacks were only 3/5 a person they sing his praises or better give credence to the deluded souls who sing his praises.

It is in my mind, hypothetically, as if back in 1938 the US had had the ability to take Hitler out, then the press reported the mourning of the Nazi crowds as somehow a significant fact as to whether taking that evil man's life was beneficial to Europe's safety.

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[Buffalo Bob]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Since 1979 we have been Iran's enemy. It is not inconceivable that someone revered by iranian leadership and many iranian citizens would hate and target US soldiers and citizens. What boggles my mind, is how the left can so clearly understand that people like southern civil war leaders and racists from this country's past don't deserve statues or schools named after them, but when they have a modern day equivalent of the people who thought blacks were only 3/5 a person they sing his praises or better give credence to the deluded souls who sing his praises.

It is in my mind, hypothetically, as if back in 1938 the US had had the ability to take Hitler out, then the press reported the mourning of the Nazi crowds as somehow a significant fact as to whether taking that evil man's life was beneficial to Europe's safety.

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Pure comedy how lefties think, isn't it?

[mooby]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Since 1979 we have been Iran's enemy. It is not inconceivable that someone revered by iranian leadership and many iranian citizens would hate and target US soldiers and citizens. What boggles my mind, is how the left can so clearly understand that people like southern civil war leaders and racists from this country's past don't deserve statues or schools named after them, but when they have a modern day equivalent of the people who thought blacks were only 3/5 a person they sing his praises or better give credence to the deluded souls who sing his praises.

It is in my mind, hypothetically, as if back in 1938 the US had had the ability to take Hitler out, then the press reported the mourning of the Nazi crowds as somehow a significant fact as to whether taking that evil man's life was beneficial to Europe's safety.

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I agree, Iran's leadership (notice how I didn't include Iranian citizens) is our enemy. If they are as big of a threat as Trump thinks, he should declare war on them. Then take it to Congress, who in theory will agree the only way to solve the Iranian puzzle is to go to war with them.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by mooby

I agree, Iran's leadership (notice how I didn't include Iranian citizens) is our enemy. If they are as big of a threat as Trump thinks, he should declare war on them. Then take it to Congress, who in theory will agree the only way to solve the Iranian puzzle is to go to war with them.

No thats not the solution, I don't think you think it is either. But what is the solution is either a) pull out of the middle east, restrict oil imports from opec countries and stop our heavy handed faux natuon building efforts or b) make an enforceable mutual defense treaty along the lines of NATO and station troops in the countries that sign that same treaty. Put requirements for troop exercises, joint cross training, and troop levels in writing, include Israel, Saudi Arabia, Jordan and Egypt. If they can't agree then we need to pull our troops out across the board.

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[Giantone]

Originally Posted by mooby

I agree. It's also not news, it's a guy hosting a podcast where he gathered widespread opinions of Iranian citizens and presented it under the banner of the NYT.

I'm not gonna let one person's, let alone hundreds of theirs, influence my opinion. I guess that's the difference between me and you.

Who could've guessed that Suleimani had people that approved of his work? Certainly not I. Also, how many of those people do you think consider themselves Dems?

There you have it, people can not discern the difference between an actual news story and an a "opinion piece",.......and lump everything under mainstream media.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by Giantone

There you have it, people can not discern the difference between an actual news story and an a "opinion piece",.......and lump everything under mainstream media.

Iran actually admitted to shooting the plane down.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Iran actually admitted to shooting the plane down.

Yes they did . Still does nothing in the fact that people can't tell the difference between an opinion story/editorial and a news story.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by mooby

I agree. It's also not news, it's a guy hosting a podcast where he gathered widespread opinions of Iranian citizens and presented it under the banner of the NYT.

I'm not gonna let one person's, let alone hundreds of theirs, influence my opinion. I guess that's the difference between me and you.

Who could've guessed that Suleimani had people that approved of his work? Certainly not I. Also, how many of those people do you think consider themselves Dems?

What this really is about is Orange Man Bad...like the woman in s10 video says, she will lose friends because she thanks trump for killing a major terrorist.

Instead of rallying around a significant end to a a guy who is responsible for so much destruction and death...we’ve seen the media question and denigrate the action take. This is fake news because the narrative is false.

Also if you pushed any WW3 bullshit, you pushed outlandish hyperbole.