trump Inpeachment...............

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by mooby

How nice of you to back up your post with sources and links. I am fully inclined to believe you based on your past history of speaking nothing but facts.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/07/p...imes&smtyp=cur

This is trash...

[mooby]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/07/p...imes&smtyp=cur

This is trash...

I agree. It's also not news, it's a guy hosting a podcast where he gathered widespread opinions of Iranian citizens and presented it under the banner of the NYT.

I'm not gonna let one person's, let alone hundreds of theirs, influence my opinion. I guess that's the difference between me and you.

Who could've guessed that Suleimani had people that approved of his work? Certainly not I. Also, how many of those people do you think consider themselves Dems?

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by mooby

I agree. It's also not news, it's a guy hosting a podcast where he gathered widespread opinions of Iranian citizens and presented it under the banner of the NYT.



I'm not gonna let one person's, let alone hundreds of theirs, influence my opinion. I guess that's the difference between me and you.



Who could've guessed that Suleimani had people that approved of his work? Certainly not I. Also, how many of those people do you think consider themselves Dems?

Since 1979 we have been Iran's enemy. It is not inconceivable that someone revered by iranian leadership and many iranian citizens would hate and target US soldiers and citizens. What boggles my mind, is how the left can so clearly understand that people like southern civil war leaders and racists from this country's past don't deserve statues or schools named after them, but when they have a modern day equivalent of the people who thought blacks were only 3/5 a person they sing his praises or better give credence to the deluded souls who sing his praises.

It is in my mind, hypothetically, as if back in 1938 the US had had the ability to take Hitler out, then the press reported the mourning of the Nazi crowds as somehow a significant fact as to whether taking that evil man's life was beneficial to Europe's safety.

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[Buffalo Bob]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Since 1979 we have been Iran's enemy. It is not inconceivable that someone revered by iranian leadership and many iranian citizens would hate and target US soldiers and citizens. What boggles my mind, is how the left can so clearly understand that people like southern civil war leaders and racists from this country's past don't deserve statues or schools named after them, but when they have a modern day equivalent of the people who thought blacks were only 3/5 a person they sing his praises or better give credence to the deluded souls who sing his praises.

It is in my mind, hypothetically, as if back in 1938 the US had had the ability to take Hitler out, then the press reported the mourning of the Nazi crowds as somehow a significant fact as to whether taking that evil man's life was beneficial to Europe's safety.

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Pure comedy how lefties think, isn't it?

[mooby]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Since 1979 we have been Iran's enemy. It is not inconceivable that someone revered by iranian leadership and many iranian citizens would hate and target US soldiers and citizens. What boggles my mind, is how the left can so clearly understand that people like southern civil war leaders and racists from this country's past don't deserve statues or schools named after them, but when they have a modern day equivalent of the people who thought blacks were only 3/5 a person they sing his praises or better give credence to the deluded souls who sing his praises.

It is in my mind, hypothetically, as if back in 1938 the US had had the ability to take Hitler out, then the press reported the mourning of the Nazi crowds as somehow a significant fact as to whether taking that evil man's life was beneficial to Europe's safety.

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I agree, Iran's leadership (notice how I didn't include Iranian citizens) is our enemy. If they are as big of a threat as Trump thinks, he should declare war on them. Then take it to Congress, who in theory will agree the only way to solve the Iranian puzzle is to go to war with them.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by mooby

I agree, Iran's leadership (notice how I didn't include Iranian citizens) is our enemy. If they are as big of a threat as Trump thinks, he should declare war on them. Then take it to Congress, who in theory will agree the only way to solve the Iranian puzzle is to go to war with them.

No thats not the solution, I don't think you think it is either. But what is the solution is either a) pull out of the middle east, restrict oil imports from opec countries and stop our heavy handed faux natuon building efforts or b) make an enforceable mutual defense treaty along the lines of NATO and station troops in the countries that sign that same treaty. Put requirements for troop exercises, joint cross training, and troop levels in writing, include Israel, Saudi Arabia, Jordan and Egypt. If they can't agree then we need to pull our troops out across the board.

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[Giantone]

Originally Posted by mooby

I agree. It's also not news, it's a guy hosting a podcast where he gathered widespread opinions of Iranian citizens and presented it under the banner of the NYT.

I'm not gonna let one person's, let alone hundreds of theirs, influence my opinion. I guess that's the difference between me and you.

Who could've guessed that Suleimani had people that approved of his work? Certainly not I. Also, how many of those people do you think consider themselves Dems?

There you have it, people can not discern the difference between an actual news story and an a "opinion piece",.......and lump everything under mainstream media.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by Giantone

There you have it, people can not discern the difference between an actual news story and an a "opinion piece",.......and lump everything under mainstream media.

Iran actually admitted to shooting the plane down.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Iran actually admitted to shooting the plane down.

Yes they did . Still does nothing in the fact that people can't tell the difference between an opinion story/editorial and a news story.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by Giantone

Yes they did . Still does nothing in the fact that people can't tell the difference between an opinion story/editorial and a news story.

They push their narrative as fact. It’s clearly not, so dishonesty over facts makes them a liar.

Check out the obituary on Suleimani by the NYT

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/03/o...mani-dead.html

Master of Iran’s intrigue and built a Shiite Axis Of Power

Dishonest to a fault. No mention of terrorist which he was designated by bush and Obama admins....why aren’t we callin him in the mainstream media a terrorist which he was designated

Also anybody perpetuating trump didn’t have the authority are again pushing fake news. Period

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

They push their narrative as fact. It’s clearly not, so dishonesty over facts makes them a liar.

........reminds me of you.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

They push their narrative as fact. It’s clearly not, so dishonesty over facts makes them a liar.

Check out the obituary on Suleimani by the NYT

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/03/o...mani-dead.html

Master of Iran’s intrigue and built a Shiite Axis Of Power

Dishonest to a fault. No mention of terrorist which he was designated by bush and Obama admins....why aren’t we callin him in the mainstream media a terrorist which he was designated

Also anybody perpetuating trump didn’t have the authority are again pushing fake news. Period

Speaking of fucking dishonest. You can't get more dishonest than your rant just there. Did you even read the god damn article? Let me point out specifically where they did IN FACT point out he was designated as a terrorist and so were his QUDs forces. Bush didn't designate him as one, it was Obama's administration that did, and Trump designated the QUDs forces.

In the West, he was seen as a clandestine force behind an Iranian campaign of international terrorism. He and other Iranian officials were designated as terrorists by the United States and Israel in 2011, accused of a plot to kill the ambassador of Saudi Arabia, one of Iran’s chief enemies in the region, in Washington. Last year, in April, the entire Quds Force was listed as a foreign terrorism group by the Trump administration.

You Trumpsters are too easy. You ignore facts, you don't read shit. Logic isn't something you value much. I guess it's much easier to listen to Hannity tell you everything while proclaiming everything else as FAKE NEWS.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by Giantone

Yes they did . Still does nothing in the fact that people can't tell the difference between an opinion story/editorial and a news story.

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/julior...esley-n2559275

Chris Mathews is a bitch.

[Buffalo Bob]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/julior...esley-n2559275

Chris Mathews is a bitch.

I do enjoy him appearing to be fighting back tears on nights where democrats fare poorly in elections. The night Trump beat Hillary I drew great joy out of his sadness. If I could pick a political commentator from TV to vanish he would be my choice hands down.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/julior...esley-n2559275

Chris Mathews is a bitch.

....deep.