Coaching and Front Office Changes

[TheMalcolmConnection]

To his credit, OC is probably his best spot.

[OmahaRedskins]

Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

To his credit, OC is probably his best spot.

I think he will get one more shot. If you throw out the rg3 experiment and the freak injury to Alex Smith, he was a 500 coach. He had Bruce Allen making player decisions and he was stuck certain coaches. Bill C should have been gone years ago. His power running game philosophy did not mess with Jay’s offense.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

To his credit, OC is probably his best spot.

People really seem to miss the forest for the trees here. He was a bad HC, however even the worst HC's still get repeated opportunities to coach as a coordinator or position coach. The NFL is a good ol' boys club, there will always be someone else there willing to give a bad coach an opportunity to rebound.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by mooby

People really seem to miss the forest for the trees here. He was a bad HC, however even the worst HC's still get repeated opportunities to coach as a coordinator or position coach. The NFL is a good ol' boys club, there will always be someone else there willing to give a bad coach an opportunity to rebound.

Exactly. It is almost like teams are too lazy to go look for someone new so they just recycle old pieces. Also of course like you said - always an old friend somewhere willing to keep you employed.

[Warthog]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Exactly. It is almost like teams are too lazy to go look for someone new so they just recycle old pieces. Also of course like you said - always an old friend somewhere willing to keep you employed.

Yeah, it’s an old boy system but that’s also because people making the decisions are looking for pedigree and prior coaches they worked with. The trouble if you make a huge leap of faith, say like when Snyder hired a QB coach (Zorn) to be the HEAD COACH, it often can turn out terribly wrong.

Gruden was a good OC , but then he really wasn’t ready for HC, especially when the person making the personnel decisions was a total idiot (Bruce Allen). Gruden has a good pedigree with prior HC he worked with, a good run as OC with the Bengals, but he was anchored DOWN by Allen’s personnel mistakes AND he never really nailed down a very good DC.


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[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Warthog

Yeah, it’s an old boy system but that’s also because people making the decisions are looking for pedigree and prior coaches they worked with. The trouble if you make a huge leap of faith, say like when Snyder hired a QB coach (Zorn) to be the HEAD COACH, it often can turn out terribly wrong.

Gruden was a good OC , but then he really wasn’t ready for HC, especially when the person making the personnel decisions was a total idiot (Bruce Allen). Gruden has a good pedigree with prior HC he worked with, a good run as OC with the Bengals, but he was anchored DOWN by Allen’s personnel mistakes AND he never really nailed down a very good DC.


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His OC run with the Bengals was not that great. But his last name was.
And Zorn wasn’t an unknown commodity. He was a player coach in the league for 100 years. Gruden was a mediocre OC and an awful HC and there are literally hundreds of people out there who are better than him. But they aren’t part of the old boys network.