Should we be drafting Tua???

[httr198020]

Absolutely not! We just draft Haskins last year in the first round. At least give him some time to prove he's not the guy before drafting another qb. If we were going to draft another qb it sure as hell shouldn't be Tua. This dude is injury prone.

[skinsfanmdc]

Who listens to Mel Kiper lol. He sad Jimmy Clausen was the most NFL ready QB when entering the draft. Or Jamarcus Russel is the next Elway. If your a football fan listen the scouts and players that actually played because they are making the most sense right now lol. Like Charlie Casserly said to the junkies "we have a couple of months of people who are talking about what they don't know about".
Mel Kiper wrong Predictions
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CiL-yTNa6QY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7J9w6gXxZA

[MTK]

Nobody has a perfect record when predicting the draft. I wouldn't just completely disregard what Kiper says.

[skinsfaninok]

Mcshay says "I Know for a fact Miami wants Joe Burrow and could try a trade to #1"

That would be crazy

[MTK]

If Tua didn't have the hip injury this would be a much more interesting conversation. I think he would be in the convo for #1 overall too.

If we didn't take Haskins last year I think Tua would be worth the risk. But unless you think Haskins is a more than likely bust this is a silly discussion.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by MTK

If Tua didn't have the hip injury this would be a much more interesting conversation. I think he would be in the convo for #1 overall too.

If we didn't take Haskins last year I think Tua would be worth the risk. But unless you think Haskins is a more than likely bust this is a silly discussion.

He's had a couple other nagging injuries too. He's already injury prone and hasn't taken an NFL snap.

IMO Tua is hands down better than Haskins. He has the potential to be an elite thrower/passer. On top of that there are no maturity issues or questionable things with work ethic or leadership. He just has the "it" factor. But we just can't take the risk on him.

As for Young, he's also most likely going to be a great player. But you need a great QB in order to try and compete for a championship, not a great DE. The difference in the SB was KC has one and SF didn't. So I always feel if you have a chance to upgrade at QB you have to take that chance.

The teams with the elite QB will always have a shot at winning a SB. The ones that don't have no chance.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

He's had a couple other nagging injuries too. He's already injury prone and hasn't taken an NFL snap.



IMO Tua is hands down better than Haskins. He has the potential to be an elite thrower/passer. On top of that there are no maturity issues or questionable things with work ethic or leadership. He just has the "it" factor. But we just can't take the risk on him.



As for Young, he's also most likely going to be a great player. But you need a great QB in order to try and compete for a championship, not a great DE. The difference in the SB was KC has one and SF didn't. So I always feel if you have a chance to upgrade at QB you have to take that chance.



The teams with the elite QB will always have a shot at winning a SB. The ones that don't have no chance.

Well said. If the team does not think Haskins is likely to ever be elite, but believes Tua can be, this is a no brainer - you draft Tua.

So far, to me, Haskins seems destined to be a middling QB. Not elite, not bad, but a serviceable starter. You don’t pass up on an elite QB because you have one that’s just OK.


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[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

Well said. If the team does not think Haskins is likely to ever be elite, but believes Tua can be, this is a no brainer - you draft Tua.

So far, to me, Haskins seems destined to be a middling QB. Not elite, not bad, but a serviceable starter. You don’t pass up on an elite QB because you have one that’s just OK.


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If Tua didn't have the injury concerns then I would draft him over Young. But if you're the Redskins you probably can't take that chance. But if they did, if they take that huge risk and it panned out it totally changes the franchise. The fans come back, the city returns to being a true Redskins town again. IDK, they have to do their due diligence and someone is going to have a real tough decision to make.

[Redskins247]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

He's had a couple other nagging injuries too. He's already injury prone and hasn't taken an NFL snap.

IMO Tua is hands down better than Haskins. He has the potential to be an elite thrower/passer. On top of that there are no maturity issues or questionable things with work ethic or leadership. He just has the "it" factor. But we just can't take the risk on him.

As for Young, he's also most likely going to be a great player. But you need a great QB in order to try and compete for a championship, not a great DE. The difference in the SB was KC has one and SF didn't. So I always feel if you have a chance to upgrade at QB you have to take that chance.

The teams with the elite QB will always have a shot at winning a SB. The ones that don't have no chance.

This is how I feel as well. If Young becomes the next Lawrence Taylor, and Haskins can be as good as Phil Simms...then maybe we have a shot at making it work like Giants did back then. But Kerrigan it seems will still be here, so the cubbard is not bare at DE at all...but there's still a big ? at the most important position on the field and we have a draft pick that can give us a potential upgrade. Just because Haskins looked better towards the end of the season, is certainly no guarantee it will continue...everyone said the same thing about Trubisky after the 2018 season...how do Bears fans feel now?

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by Redskins247

This is how I feel as well. If Young becomes the next Lawrence Taylor, and Haskins can be as good as Phil Simms...then maybe we have a shot at making it work like Giants did back then. But Kerrigan it seems will still be here, so the cubbard is not bare at DE at all...but there's still a big ? at the most important position on the field and we have a draft pick that can give us a potential upgrade. Just because Haskins looked better towards the end of the season, is certainly no guarantee it will continue...everyone said the same thing about Trubisky after the 2018 season...how do Bears fans feel now?

Haskins has way more upside than Mitch ever did tho, If we didn't have such a glaring need of a legit star on Defense, I'd say F it Trade Haskins for a 3rd and take Tua but look at our dline, the interior is really good, the outside is average at best. Sweat could end up being a stud but he was not very good last yr, so there are concerns that he's just another P Smith, solid but not a dependable pass rusher. Chase Young could be the next Julius Peppers , those guys don't come around often.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Redskins247

This is how I feel as well. If Young becomes the next Lawrence Taylor, and Haskins can be as good as Phil Simms...then maybe we have a shot at making it work like Giants did back then. But Kerrigan it seems will still be here, so the cubbard is not bare at DE at all...but there's still a big ? at the most important position on the field and we have a draft pick that can give us a potential upgrade. Just because Haskins looked better towards the end of the season, is certainly no guarantee it will continue...everyone said the same thing about Trubisky after the 2018 season...how do Bears fans feel now?

This... If I had to guess at the very best outcome Haskins is a middle range starter. Will he ever be an elite starter? I would probably say no.

[httr198020]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

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This... If I had to guess at the very best outcome Haskins is a middle range starter. Will he ever be an elite starter? I would probably say no.

You don't know what Haskins might develop into. He has the talent to be elite. Haskins is raw. There is a lot of room for growth. He just needs a team and a fan base with the patience to go through some pains. The worse thing for Haskins career was being drafted here.

[SunnySide]

Most Accurate 2019 NFL Mock Draft: Kiper, McShay, Miller or Jeremiah?

Most correct picks, most correct slot-and-team picks and biggest whiffs.

Updated on April 26, 2019 at 11:58 AM EDT

Todd McShay and Daniel Jeremiah hit on nine of 32 first-round picks in their final NFL mock drafts, the best among the four most prominent draft analysts.

Both McShay and Jeremiah nailed the first three picks -- Kyler Murray, Nick Bosa and Quinnen Williams -- as did Mel Kiper Jr. Bleacher Report's Matt Miller, meanwhile, hit on Murray and Bosa but projected the New York Jets would select Ed Oliver instead of Williams.

Draft analyst comparison by draft slot only (for example, McShay mocked Devin Bush to the Denver Broncos at No. 10, and while the Pittsburgh Steelers selected Bush at No. 10, McShay still gets credit for hitting on Bush at No. 10):

McShay: 9 correct picks
Jeremiah: 9
Miller: 8
Kiper: 7

Draft slot and team (e.g. Murray and the Cardinals at No. 1):

McShay: 8
Jeremiah: 8
Miller: 6
Kiper: 6

PODCAST: Kiper on 2nd-Round Talent, Day 3 WRs

Team (e.g. credit for Daniel Jones to the Giants at No. 17):

Jeremiah: 9
McShay: 8
Kiper: 7
Miller: 6

First-rounders (number of their picks who went in the first round regardless of draft position):

McShay: 25
Jeremiah: 25
Kiper: 25
Miller: 24

https://herosports.com/nfl-draft/acc...-jeremiah-ahah

Should we do a combine/NFL draft thread? is there one that im not seeing?

[Buffalo Bob]

It seems every year at this time people get amnesia regarding the high pick draft busts of years gone by. All media hype runs rampant these days, generational talents are a dime a dozen in all major sports drafts and the weatherman claims we have a storm of the century every week.

[KI Skins Fan]

This is from cbssports.com most recent mock draft. I feel a little naughty for posting this.

NFL MOCK DRAFT ROUND 1

Round 1 - Pick 1

Joe Burrow QB
LSU • SR • 6'4" / 221 LBS
PROJECTED TEAM
Cincinnati
PROSPECT RNK
2nd
POSITION RNK
1st
Joe Burrow silenced any concerns that he would refuse to play for Cincinnati. It was the only obstacle remaining before the two parties came together.

Round 1 - Pick 2

Tua Tagovailoa QB
ALABAMA • JR • 6'0" / 217 LBS
PROJECTED TEAM
Washington
PROSPECT RNK
3rd
POSITION RNK
1st

If the NFL Draft were a straight forward venture then there would be no need for mock drafts. A year ago, the Cardinals selected Kyler Murray one year after drafting Josh Rosen in the top 10. If Washington comes to the conclusion that Tagovailoa is a better long-term option than Dwayne Haskins, why would they not take him and then deal Haskins for additional draft capital?