Trent Williams ends season-long holdout, rejoins Redskins

[BigHairedAristocrat]

2nd and a 3rd in 2020 is the minimum I'd even consider. Otherwise, I'd rather have Trent play the final year, walk in 2021 and get a compensatory pick in 2022.

[SunnySide]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

2nd and a 3rd in 2020 is the minimum I'd even consider. Otherwise, I'd rather have Trent play the final year, walk in 2021 and get a compensatory pick in 2022.

Except:
- he wont report or play for us next year (safe assumption)
- next year therefore will not count as accrued so he wont be FA eligible
- we then are in the same boat we are in now, except hes another year older
- even if he leaves in FA, a comp pick is not guaranteed bc we would have to make sure we dont sign an offsetting FA

We can continue to act like Bruce Allen or we can take the best offer and move on.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by SunnySide

Except:
- he wont report or play for us next year (safe assumption)
- next year therefore will not count as accrued so he wont be FA eligible
- we then are in the same boat we are in now, except hes another year older
- even if he leaves in FA, a comp pick is not guaranteed bc we would have to make sure we dont sign an offsetting FA

We can continue to act like Bruce Allen or we can take the best offer and move on.

No one thinks Trent sits out another year. Especially after he talks to teams and finds out none of them are going to pay him the $25M he was asking from Rivera. This has always been at least 90% about the money. Several reporters have mentioned that Trent was more willing to sit out last year because he could make up for his lost 2019 salary on his next contract. He's certainly finding out from other teams now that that is almost certainly not going to be the case. So there's no way he's going to compound his mistake by missing out on another 12 Million dollars in 2020 (24 million over 2 years).

[SunnySide]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

No one thinks Trent sits out another year.

Tough call, this is all future hypothetical speak right now so who really knows.

I think its 60% he doesnt report at all if not traded, 40% he does at week 8 or whatever the cut off is to have the season accrue. I just dont see him reporting week 1 and wanting to suit up.

Id rather take 2 3Rs vs "hoping" he reports week 1. What if he doesnt report until week 8 ... that would be a major misplay of our poker hand imo .. all for the hope a 2R and 3R vs 2 3Rs. Payoff is not worth the risk imo. If all you can get is 2 3rs, id take it if that is the best offer we have by say mid August.

Get the best offer you can and move on.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by SunnySide

Tough call, this is all future hypothetical speak right now so who really knows.

I think its 60% he doesnt report at all if not traded, 40% he does at week 8 or whatever the cut off is to have the season accrue. I just dont see him reporting week 1 and wanting to suit up.

Id rather take 2 3Rs vs "hoping" he reports week 1. What if he doesnt report until week 8 ... that would be a major misplay of our poker hand imo .. all for the hope a 2R and 3R vs 2 3Rs. Payoff is not worth the risk imo. If all you can get is 2 3rs, id take it if that is the best offer we have by say mid August.

Get the best offer you can and move on.

Reporters who have talked to the parties involved know there is no way Trent sits out another year. And it doesn't make sense that he would. He would be cutting off his nose to spite his face - exactly what Bruce Allen did last year by refusing to budge.

As to taking two 3Rs now to hedge against Trent not showing up week 1 - that would be very short sighted. A teams starting LT could be hurt during training camp or early on in the season, in which case the price goes up. If we're not getting offers of fair value (minimum of a second), then there is no urgency to take pennies on the dollar prior this far in advance of the trade deadline.

And if Trent really wanted to be out ASAP, he could agree to take a smaller contract from his new team in exchange for them agreeing to providing proper compensation.

[FrenchSkin]

Originally Posted by SunnySide

Except:
- he wont report or play for us next year (safe assumption)
- next year therefore will not count as accrued so he wont be FA eligible
- we then are in the same boat we are in now, except hes another year older
- even if he leaves in FA, a comp pick is not guaranteed bc we would have to make sure we dont sign an offsetting FA

We can continue to act like Bruce Allen or we can take the best offer and move on.

The way I see it, and even though I'd love this situation to be solved as quickly as possible, the Skins have the leverage : TW is not in a position to sit out another year, and if he plays he'll want to put the best tape possible out there. Plus if he really was ready to sit out, the Skins have the threat of franchise tagging him in 2021... is he gonna sit that season out too ?

Trent is going to be 32 at the beginning of this season, 34 at the beginning of the 2022 season, which is how far this team could drag this thing if they wanted to.

He'll play next year. Either for a team ready to give us solid compensation, or for us.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

2nd and a 3rd in 2020 is the minimum I'd even consider. Otherwise, I'd rather have Trent play the final year, walk in 2021 and get a compensatory pick in 2022.

Ill be shocked with a 1st Round pick for Trent...I just don't see it happening. But Id run to get both a 2nd and 3rd round picks. Id be very happy with that compensation.