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Old 03-12-2020, 11:31 AM   #1
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Yup, for below market value because the trade is forced. Thus setting your team back even further.
Not if Tua is the clear better QB
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Old 03-19-2020, 10:11 AM   #2
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Not if Tua is the clear better QB
Yeah but can he pass accurately from the bench when he’s in a hip and ankle cast?
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Old 03-20-2020, 12:10 AM   #3
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Yeah but can he pass accurately from the bench when he’s in a hip and ankle cast?

When you spend a first round pick in a QB, then you have to give him a reasonable time to see if he can be your future franchise QB. Seven games is not enough time, especially when he had outstanding numbers in his last 2 games. If he plays the whole 2020 season, then he will have been evaluated for 23 games, which is a reasonable sampling. Then you make your decision based on the best available information.

If we pass up on Chase Young, who many predict could be an outstanding defensive talent, then passing him would be a waste of a very high draft pick. If we draft Tua and then Dwayne Haskins goes onto another team and becomes THEIR franchise QB, then we wasted that draft pick.

The Cardinals thought Rosen was going to be a bust, based on a mediocre rookie season, and so drafted a QB in their first round the next year. Haskins had an average 2019 rookie season, based on his total numbers (7 TD, 7 INT). However, these numbers were warped by his extremely poor first game (3 INT). Gruden threw him into that game without ever having ever practiced with the first squad, ever. Haskins was just not ready. After that bad first game he steadily improved, and finished with two OUTSTANDING games.

Rosen never had a SINGLE good or very good or excellent game in his rookie season. Much less finishing with two outstanding games. BL, no matter how much people like Tua, you can’t dump a rookie QB when they finish so strongly. Now Haskins may bust out in 2020 and then we’ll have to draft a QB with our first pick in 2021. It isn’t about Chase Young or Tua in the draft. Haskins finished very strong in 2019 and that bought him a year to be evaluated in 2020.


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When you spend a first round pick in a QB, then you have to give him a reasonable time to see if he can be your future franchise QB. Seven games is not enough time, especially when he had outstanding numbers in his last 2 games. If he plays the whole 2020 season, then he will have been evaluated for 23 games, which is a reasonable sampling. Then you make your decision based on the best available information.

If we pass up on Chase Young, who many predict could be an outstanding defensive talent, then passing him would be a waste of a very high draft pick. If we draft Tua and then Dwayne Haskins goes onto another team and becomes THEIR franchise QB, then we wasted that draft pick.

The Cardinals thought Rosen was going to be a bust, based on a mediocre rookie season, and so drafted a QB in their first round the next year. Haskins had an average 2019 rookie season, based on his total numbers (7 TD, 7 INT). However, these numbers were warped by his extremely poor first game (3 INT). Gruden threw him into that game without ever having ever practiced with the first squad, ever. Haskins was just not ready. After that bad first game he steadily improved, and finished with two OUTSTANDING games.

Rosen never had a SINGLE good or very good or excellent game in his rookie season. Much less finishing with two outstanding games. BL, no matter how much people like Tua, you can’t dump a rookie QB when they finish so strongly. Now Haskins may bust out in 2020 and then we’ll have to draft a QB with our first pick in 2021. It isn’t about Chase Young or Tua in the draft. Haskins finished very strong in 2019 and that bought him a year to be evaluated in 2020.


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Makes tons of sense.

Here's hoping DH crushes it this year. And that CY does as well, freeing up Sweat to go nuts too. The tandem of these two, with our strengths in the middle, is intoxicating.

This lower key approach to free agency just could be the foundation for fun returning to Skins Nation.

Or .. I guess ... it could be more of the same. Which we're used to. But I think it's different this time around.
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Old 03-20-2020, 02:01 PM   #5
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Cowturd talking with Phil Simms this afternoon says he has a source (reliable) that the Bengals will trade out of the #1 spot .
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Cowturd talking with Phil Simms this afternoon says he has a source (reliable) that the Bengals will trade out of the #1 spot .
There has been rumors that Miami wants Burrow and will do what they can to try and get him.. I do find it odd the Bengals have done nothing with Dalton
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There has been rumors that Miami wants Burrow and will do what they can to try and get him.. I do find it odd the Bengals have done nothing with Dalton
Dalton is still under contract correct?
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Got any more details on what Colin had to say? Such as why they would do it? If they like any of 3 - 4 QBs then it would make sense. But which team would want to jump to #1 with the fortune it would cost? Some more fun for the draft even if pretty unlikely.
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Makes tons of sense.

Here's hoping DH crushes it this year. And that CY does as well, freeing up Sweat to go nuts too. The tandem of these two, with our strengths in the middle, is intoxicating.

This lower key approach to free agency just could be the foundation for fun returning to Skins Nation.

Or .. I guess ... it could be more of the same. Which we're used to. But I think it's different this time around.
Agree our front 4 could be very interesting.
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